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N24TD
04-22-2005, 04:07 PM
Mike,

Is da coming from da Nort' country - freezing level @ about 3000' and 80% prob of icing according to the briefer (who is just guessing too!!) until I get a ways into Illinois. It looks like the low is going to be moving out of Dayton a little sooner than the forecast this morning.

Hoping against hope that ceilings are high enough so stay out of visable moisture and going due South from MSN will get to warmer temps before the ceiling start to drop so we can climb up and either get between layers or on top. Then Ohio looks warm enough aloft so that an approach would be ice free. Only other concern is personal minimums are 800 and 1.5, thought I've done 250 and 3/4 in a heavy, driving rain - thus the reason for higher P/M's :-)

The only true forcast is 1-3 hours out and sometimes they're wrong on those. Hoping to get there, but only safely!

Mark & Barb
N24TD




>Probably different coming from the West, but I never saw anything lower than 45 degrees (at 8,000') coming up from the south (from SC). The Current US Temps map doesn't show anything lower than 43F anywhere between Wisconsin and Ohio. The Current Icing Potential link shows no significant icing potential below 9,000 feet, on your probable route of flight.

I've about reached the point where I consider ATC-provided weather to be almost useless, when it comes to forecasts as opposed to PIREPS and observations. The various real-time radar, satellite, etc. reports are far more dependable and predictable.



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dls364
04-22-2005, 04:15 PM
Dayton is forecast to have very high winds tomorrow - gusts to 32 Kts.
Here's the latest:


KDAY 221731Z 221818 16010KT P6SM OVC015
TEMPO 1819 2SM -SHRA BR OVC004
FM1900 22012KT P6SM BKN015
TEMPO 1922 4SM -SHRA BKN025CB
FM2200 34014KT P6SM OVC015
TEMPO 2303 4SM -SHRA BR OVC008
FM0300 35014G25KT 4SM -SHRA BR OVC012
FM0800 35020G30KT P6SM OVC009
TEMPO 0812 5SM -SHRA BR OVC005
FM1200 32022G32KT 5SM -SHRA BR OVC008=


David Snodgrass
BAC East Central Regional Director
Beech Be23 N6083N
North Manchester, IN


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Subject: [musketeermail] Re: Current Temps And Icing Potential


Mike,

Is da coming from da Nort' country - freezing level @ about 3000' and
80% prob of icing according to the briefer (who is just guessing too!!)
until I get a ways into Illinois. It looks like the low is going to be
moving out of Dayton a little sooner than the forecast this morning.

Hoping against hope that ceilings are high enough so stay out of visable
moisture and going due South from MSN will get to warmer temps before
the ceiling start to drop so we can climb up and either get between
layers or on top. Then Ohio looks warm enough aloft so that an approach
would be ice free. Only other concern is personal minimums are 800 and
1.5, thought I've done 250 and 3/4 in a heavy, driving rain - thus the
reason for higher P/M's :-)

The only true forcast is 1-3 hours out and sometimes they're wrong on
those. Hoping to get there, but only safely!

Mark & Barb
N24TD




>Probably different coming from the West, but I never saw anything lower
than 45 degrees (at 8,000') coming up from the south (from SC). The
Current US Temps map doesn't show anything lower than 43F anywhere
between Wisconsin and Ohio. The Current Icing Potential link shows no
significant icing potential below 9,000 feet, on your probable route of
flight.

I've about reached the point where I consider ATC-provided weather to be
almost useless, when it comes to forecasts as opposed to PIREPS and
observations. The various real-time radar, satellite, etc. reports are
far more dependable and predictable.



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