[musketeermail] Intercoms

02-01-2006, 02:39 PM #1

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If you have rear seat ashtrays, and you are not using them for any other purpose, there is a nice recessed jack box that mounts in the same opening. You can mount it so that the plugs go it from the top or the bottom. The plugs don't stick out toward the cabin, so they are less likely to be damaged. There is also no wire clutter down around the floor.

There are also other angle mount housings that you can install on the surface or recessed into a hole, with the flange covering the edge of the cut-out.

I have not researched these things in a while, but no single vendor has all the different types. You'll need to check online with some avionic shops, Spruce, Chief, etc. before deciding.

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My airplane is a A23 build in Dec 1964.* I* think the Sundowners have a different set up in the back seat so that* it may be more feasible to mount the jacks in the arm rest.* I* don't have arm rests in the back.* Garmin was not an option when I* bought my PS several years ago so my selection of PS does not reflect* on Garmin at all. 
 
daedalusnj <daedalusnj@earthlink.net> wrote:* Mine were mounted in the rear seat armrests - they worked great there.* I installed the Garmin 340. It was either that or one of the PS* Engineering units. My choice was Garmin so that the entire panel was* from a single manufacturer. I'm sure you would be happy with either. 
 
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> Good morning, 
> 
> As we are tackling the interior in the next couple of weeks, we thought 
> we would install a panel-mount intercom.* I had had a portable one, that 
> works fine, actually, very well, but there are a lot of wires around and 
> it would be nice to clean that up. 
> 
> My requirements are: 
> 
> 4 Place 
> Music Input (not for music, but I have a handheld that I play through 
> the intercom to pick-up the ATIS, etc.) 
> Crew ISO switch would be nice, not needed 
> 
> Most of the other features such as recording, etc are of no interest to 
> me 
> 
> 
> Questions are: 
> 
> Where do you install the rear input jacks in the Musketeer so that they 
> are out of the way (elbows, etc) 
> What model would you recommend? 
> 
> 
> -- 
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02-01-2006, 03:10 PM #2

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I'm having the ashtray mounts done on the rear seats for the new intercom install in my A23-24. They're being mounted holes down (plugs up). A little harder to plug in - you can't see the holes - but less likely to have things fall in the holes and less stress on the headset cords as they aren't bending the 180 from up to down (my experience is that almost all audio cable shorts develop at the junction between the cord and the plug bodies where the greatest flex occurs). I'm going to mark the hole positions with a "big" and a "little" white dot (most non-flyers don't know the mic from audio jack but they _can_ tell one is bigger than the other if you point it out the first time).

There's an example at http://www.edmo.com/index.php?module...amp;cat_id=450. Gulf Coast Avionics sells these as well (page 50 of their hard copy catalog, page 9 of the PDF at http://www.gulf-coast-avionics.com/p...2005-42-62.pdf). I looks like most are _not_ pre-drilled to allow the installer to account for variations in mounting and clearance.

For sidewall install (like up front) something like (angled, surface) http://www.edmo.com/index.php?module...amp;cat_id=450 or (angled, flush) http://www.edmo.com/index.php?module...amp;cat_id=490 works nice.

I'm not a big fan of the under panel mount - I'm trying to clean up my panel's under panel warts, which are currently two sets of jacks and the instrument light switch on the pilot side and a 4 place box intercom and a 3 spot breaker panel on the passenger side, to cut down on banged/scraped knees. It would be different if anyone made them with rolled edges but nobody seems to have heard of this basic finishing technique for sheet metal when it comes to intercom mounts .
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If you have rear seat ashtrays, and you are not using them for any other purpose, there is a nice recessed jack box that mounts in the same opening. You can mount it so that the plugs go it from the top or the bottom. The plugs don't stick out toward the cabin, so they are less likely to be damaged. There is also no wire clutter down around the floor.

There are also other angle mount housings that you can install on the surface or recessed into a hole, with the flange covering the edge of the cut-out.

I have not researched these things in a while, but no single vendor has all the different types. You'll need to check online with some avionic shops, Spruce, Chief, etc. before deciding.

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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:46:52 -0800 (PST)

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My airplane is a A23 build in Dec 1964.* I* think the Sundowners have a different set up in the back seat so that* it may be more feasible to mount the jacks in the arm rest.* I* don't have arm rests in the back.* Garmin was not an option when I* bought my PS several years ago so my selection of PS does not reflect* on Garmin at all. daedalusnj <daedalusnj@earthlink.net> wrote:* Mine were mounted in the rear seat armrests - they worked great there.* I installed the Garmin 340. It was either that or one of the PS* Engineering units. My choice was Garmin so that the entire panel was* from a single manufacturer. I'm sure you would be happy with either. Jack On Wed, Feb 1, 2006 at 10:52 AM, Braden Messenger wrote: 
> Good morning, 
> 
> As we are tackling the interior in the next couple of weeks, we
>thought we would install a panel-mount intercom.* I had had a
>portable one, that works fine, actually, very well, but there are
>a lot of wires around and it would be nice to clean that up. 
> My requirements are: 
> 4 Place 
> Music Input (not for music, but I have a handheld that I play
>through the intercom to pick-up the ATIS, etc.) Crew ISO
>switch would be nice, not needed Most of the other features
>such as recording, etc are of no interest to me 
>Questions are: Where do you install the rear input jacks in
>the Musketeer so that they are out of the way (elbows, etc) 
>What model would you recommend? -- Braden
>Messenger, President & C.E.O. Kelowna Software Ltd. 
>#202-1980 Cooper Road, Kelowna, BC, Canada V1Y 8K5 Ph. (250)
>712-4644 Fax (250) 860-4240 Visit our web page at <a
>href="http://www.L4U.com">http://www.L4U.com</a> L4U - Library
>Automation Made Easy 
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02-01-2006, 08:16 PM #3

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There is a plastic mount for headset jacks. With this mount you can install the jacks in a lower position(below the ashtray holder) allowing the headsets to be plugged in from the top and not putting a bend into the cable. This will allow the install of the LED/pass lights into the ashtray opening as well.
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