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  1. #1

    aeroflash strobes

    Hi all,
    Is there any one out there that has installed Aero Flash wingtip strobes on
    a musketeer. I am looking for any information or 337 that I can use as a
    reference for my installation and field approval. Any help would be great.


    Thanks,

    Ron Van Hoosen
    1963 23 M-369
    Goldsby,OK.


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  2. #2

    aeroflash strobes

    >I would be interested in hearing the answer to this one. The aero
    >flash units are significantly less expensive than the other brands...
    >And the difference has to do with the lack of an applicable STC.
    >
    > >Is there any one out there that has installed Aero Flash wingtip strobes on
    > >a musketeer. I am looking for any information or 337 that I can use as a
    > >reference for my installation and field approval. Any help would be great.

    The answer also has to do with the FAR requirements based on the date of
    production of the plane. Early planes can get away with less light.

    The Whelen units are the only choice for later models, but you should be
    able to review the FAR requirements (spelled out in the FREE Aircraft
    Spruce catalog) and install the Aero-Flash wing tip strobes on a 60's model
    Musketeer.

    Bob Steward, A&P IA
    Birmingham, AL



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  3. #3

    aeroflash strobes

    >I have a 79 Sundowner with the factory strobe on the vertical
    >stabilizer. How about adding the Aero Flash wingtip strobes?
    >Steve King

    By 79 you'd probably have to use the Whelen units to meet the light output
    requirements. Inspect the data (just looked and the CURRENT Spruce catalog
    does not have it anymore!) resented in a graphical form here:

    http://www.whelen.com/aviation/catal...%20Systems.pdf

    Instead of mucking through the FARs for the text description of the
    requirements.

    Whelen's recommendations to meet the FAR minimums for Beech:

    http://www.whelen.com/aviation/catal...heon_Beach.pdf

    Bob Steward, A&P IA
    Birmingham, AL



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  4. #4

    aeroflash strobes

    I had the Aeroflash Nav Strobe lights installed on my Sierra about 3
    years ago when my annual was done. I don't know of any special
    paperwork but I can't check my logs as they are with the plane at
    annual. I don't remember a 337.

    Bob Palamara
    9707L


    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, ronnyvsailing99@... wrote:
    >
    > Hi all,
    > Is there any one out there that has installed Aero Flash wingtip
    strobes on
    > a musketeer. I am looking for any information or 337 that I can use
    as a
    > reference for my installation and field approval. Any help would be
    great.
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Ron Van Hoosen
    > 1963 23 M-369
    > Goldsby,OK.
    >
    >
    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    >






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  5. #5

    aeroflash strobes

    >I used the two links you gave. On the first one, it says: "One
    >anti-collision strobe light mounted on the vertical fin will meet the
    >minimum requirements on most aircraft. A half red and half white lens is
    >recommended." That's exactly what was factory installed on my
    >Sundowner. If I keep the factory installed strobe (and it is functioning
    >OK), and add supplemental wingtip strobes, why would the wingtip strobes
    >have to meet any light output/coverage requirements?
    >Steve King

    There are people that spend their entire careers working in the field of
    anti-collision lighting and FAA approval of such systems. I'll refer you
    to the appropriate FAR (as a starting point) and then you can work it out
    from there.

    FAR 23.1401 Anticollision light system

    Note that if you DO install a new strobe system (as opposed to one that was
    installed and grandfathered in before FAR 23 certification became
    required), then it will have to meet those specifications. In particular,
    (e) "Light Intensity" and (f) "Minimum Effective Intensities for
    Anti-Collision Lights".

    I think you'll find that AeroFlash publishes little information that will
    let you prove that their older, low power system will meet the current spec.

    >By 79 you'd probably have to use the Whelen units to meet the light output
    >requirements. Inspect the data (just looked and the CURRENT Spruce catalog
    >does not have it anymore!) resented in a graphical form here:
    >
    >http://www.whelen.com/aviation/catal...%20Systems.pdf

    There is a difference between a blinking light on the top of the vertical
    fin, and the requirements for strobes on the tips and tail.

    Get your local IA to agree on whatever you plan to buy, because he's going
    to have to prepare the paperwork and submit it to the FSDO.

    Bob Steward, A&P IA
    Birmingham, AL



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  6. #6

    aeroflash strobes

    Bob Steward is trying to be helpful, but may be a bit too courteous
    as this is one of the areas, where if you use a non-STC'd strobe or
    can't go in with a 337 showing an identical installation in YOUR
    airplane (not a 1963 Mouse), you'll regret not spending the extra
    couple of hundred bucks for the approved Whelen replacement. The
    Whelen and Aeroflash look the same and go in the same hole, but only
    the Whelen has the installation paperwork already done. It's also a
    far better light.

    It'll probably take you IA more than an extra hour to do the
    paperwork for the Aeroflash and a successful ending with the FAA is
    not guaranteed, so the up-front price difference really isn't as
    much as you'd first think.

    My 2 cents, FWIW.

    Bob
    A&P, Aero Eng
    N6504R
    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, Bob Steward <n76lima@...>
    wrote:
    >
    >
    > >I used the two links you gave. On the first one, it says: "One
    > >anti-collision strobe light mounted on the vertical fin will meet
    the
    > >minimum requirements on most aircraft. A half red and half white
    lens is
    > >recommended." That's exactly what was factory installed on my
    > >Sundowner. If I keep the factory installed strobe (and it is
    functioning
    > >OK), and add supplemental wingtip strobes, why would the wingtip
    strobes
    > >have to meet any light output/coverage requirements?
    > >Steve King
    >
    > There are people that spend their entire careers working in the
    field of
    > anti-collision lighting and FAA approval of such systems. I'll
    refer you
    > to the appropriate FAR (as a starting point) and then you can work
    it out
    > from there.
    >
    > FAR 23.1401 Anticollision light system
    >
    > Note that if you DO install a new strobe system (as opposed to one
    that was
    > installed and grandfathered in before FAR 23 certification became
    > required), then it will have to meet those specifications. In
    particular,
    > (e) "Light Intensity" and (f) "Minimum Effective Intensities for
    > Anti-Collision Lights".
    >
    > I think you'll find that AeroFlash publishes little information
    that will
    > let you prove that their older, low power system will meet the
    current spec.
    >
    > >By 79 you'd probably have to use the Whelen units to meet the
    light output
    > >requirements. Inspect the data (just looked and the CURRENT
    Spruce catalog
    > >does not have it anymore!) resented in a graphical form here:
    > >
    > >http://www.whelen.com/aviation/catalog/Anit-Collision%
    20Systems.pdf
    >
    > There is a difference between a blinking light on the top of the
    vertical
    > fin, and the requirements for strobes on the tips and tail.
    >
    > Get your local IA to agree on whatever you plan to buy, because
    he's going
    > to have to prepare the paperwork and submit it to the FSDO.
    >
    > Bob Steward, A&P IA
    > Birmingham, AL
    >







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