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  1. #1

    The latest on WAAS from Garmin

    This is from today's AOPA e-Pilot.

    GARMIN DELAYS WAAS UPGRADE TO POPULAR AVIONICS
    Garmin this week announced delays in scheduled upgrades that will
    allow its GNS 430/530, GPS 400/500, and GNC 420 avionics units to take
    advantage of the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS). According to
    the company, a major software rewrite means the WAAS upgrade won't be
    available before the third quarter of 2006.

    Cloyd Van Hook
    President, BAC




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    The latest on WAAS from Garmin

    When I saw this on the AOPA bulletin, I went to the Garmin website and could find nothing about it. So I spent the next twenty minutes on hold trying to call them, and finally got through. It is true; they recently decided that a major software re-write was required, and have postponed the upgrade availability date yet a third time, to 3Q 2006. The people handling the phone banks at Garmin are really getting beaten up over it, too.

    As a Garmin 430 owner, I find it frustrating. As a Garmin stockholder, I find it alarming. Their stock has gone as high as 60, but is currently back down to 43. It will probably take another hit, as this news spreads. It sure sounds like their engineering department (software and otherwise) has become severely over-extended, which sure doesn't bode well. I suspect that Garmin's many competitors are feeling pretty gleeful right now. And no airframe manufacturer in their right mind will keep putting 430s/530s in their panels, if customers who can afford the price tag on a new plane become increasingly aware of this WAAS limitation and the repetitive upgrade delays (as most will).

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: cloydvanhook
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:25 AM
    Subject: [musketeermail] The latest on WAAS from Garmin


    This is from today's AOPA e-Pilot.

    GARMIN DELAYS WAAS UPGRADE TO POPULAR AVIONICS
    Garmin this week announced delays in scheduled upgrades that will
    allow its GNS 430/530, GPS 400/500, and GNC 420 avionics units to take
    advantage of the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS). According to
    the company, a major software rewrite means the WAAS upgrade won't be
    available before the third quarter of 2006.

    Cloyd Van Hook
    President, BAC

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  3. #3

    The latest on WAAS from Garmin

    You could trade in for a Garmin 480. My unit is already WAAS
    capable. Shooting an LPV approach is just like an ILS. Even an
    LNAV/VNAV gets a glide path generation (for guidance). I'm happy
    with my unit. Mine is hooked up to my KCS 55 HSI so I have full
    guidance info directly in front.




    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Rellihan" <rellihan@r...>
    wrote:
    > When I saw this on the AOPA bulletin, I went to the Garmin website
    and could find nothing about it. So I spent the next twenty minutes
    on hold trying to call them, and finally got through. It is true;
    they recently decided that a major software re-write was required,
    and have postponed the upgrade availability date yet a third time, to
    3Q 2006. The people handling the phone banks at Garmin are really
    getting beaten up over it, too.
    >
    > As a Garmin 430 owner, I find it frustrating. As a Garmin
    stockholder, I find it alarming. Their stock has gone as high as 60,
    but is currently back down to 43. It will probably take another hit,
    as this news spreads. It sure sounds like their engineering
    department (software and otherwise) has become severely over-
    extended, which sure doesn't bode well. I suspect that Garmin's many
    competitors are feeling pretty gleeful right now. And no airframe
    manufacturer in their right mind will keep putting 430s/530s in their
    panels, if customers who can afford the price tag on a new plane
    become increasingly aware of this WAAS limitation and the repetitive
    upgrade delays (as most will).
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: cloydvanhook
    > To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:25 AM
    > Subject: [musketeermail] The latest on WAAS from Garmin
    >
    >
    > This is from today's AOPA e-Pilot.
    >
    > GARMIN DELAYS WAAS UPGRADE TO POPULAR AVIONICS
    > Garmin this week announced delays in scheduled upgrades that will
    > allow its GNS 430/530, GPS 400/500, and GNC 420 avionics units to
    take
    > advantage of the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS). According
    to
    > the company, a major software rewrite means the WAAS upgrade
    won't be
    > available before the third quarter of 2006.
    >
    > Cloyd Van Hook
    > President, BAC
    >
    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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    The latest on WAAS from Garmin

    Maybe Garmin should give us all free upgrades until the thgird quater of 2006. ($10,000 for a 430 bought in good faith).

    Tom Corcoran

    -----Original Message-----
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    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:25:03 -0000
    Subject: [musketeermail] The latest on WAAS from Garmin


    This is from today's AOPA e-Pilot.

    GARMIN DELAYS WAAS UPGRADE TO POPULAR AVIONICS
    Garmin this week announced delays in scheduled upgrades that will
    allow its GNS 430/530, GPS 400/500, and GNC 420 avionics units to take
    advantage of the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS). According to
    the company, a major software rewrite means the WAAS upgrade won't be
    available before the third quarter of 2006.

    Cloyd Van Hook
    President, BAC





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  5. #5

    The latest on WAAS from Garmin

    I have two fundamental problems with the trade-in approach. The first is money. I'm retired, and a 480 trade-up from a 430 is a very large expense to me. The second is philosophical. I don't usually buy more product from a company that is currently screwing me over. And if I had a good email address I thought they would actually see (they ignored my earlier queries), I would CC Garmin on this. I own a little of their stock (200 shares), and it dropped another .82 point today.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: ajpcps
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:28 PM
    Subject: [musketeermail] Re: The latest on WAAS from Garmin


    You could trade in for a Garmin 480. My unit is already WAAS
    capable. Shooting an LPV approach is just like an ILS. Even an
    LNAV/VNAV gets a glide path generation (for guidance). I'm happy
    with my unit. Mine is hooked up to my KCS 55 HSI so I have full
    guidance info directly in front.




    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Rellihan" <rellihan@r...>
    wrote:
    > When I saw this on the AOPA bulletin, I went to the Garmin website
    and could find nothing about it. So I spent the next twenty minutes
    on hold trying to call them, and finally got through. It is true;
    they recently decided that a major software re-write was required,
    and have postponed the upgrade availability date yet a third time, to
    3Q 2006. The people handling the phone banks at Garmin are really
    getting beaten up over it, too.
    >
    > As a Garmin 430 owner, I find it frustrating. As a Garmin
    stockholder, I find it alarming. Their stock has gone as high as 60,
    but is currently back down to 43. It will probably take another hit,
    as this news spreads. It sure sounds like their engineering
    department (software and otherwise) has become severely over-
    extended, which sure doesn't bode well. I suspect that Garmin's many
    competitors are feeling pretty gleeful right now. And no airframe
    manufacturer in their right mind will keep putting 430s/530s in their
    panels, if customers who can afford the price tag on a new plane
    become increasingly aware of this WAAS limitation and the repetitive
    upgrade delays (as most will).
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: cloydvanhook
    > To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:25 AM
    > Subject: [musketeermail] The latest on WAAS from Garmin
    >
    >
    > This is from today's AOPA e-Pilot.
    >
    > GARMIN DELAYS WAAS UPGRADE TO POPULAR AVIONICS
    > Garmin this week announced delays in scheduled upgrades that will
    > allow its GNS 430/530, GPS 400/500, and GNC 420 avionics units to
    take
    > advantage of the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS). According
    to
    > the company, a major software rewrite means the WAAS upgrade
    won't be
    > available before the third quarter of 2006.
    >
    > Cloyd Van Hook
    > President, BAC
    >
    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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  6. #6

    The latest on WAAS from Garmin

    So here is my hunch folks.

    There will not be an upgrade path from the Garmin
    current series. You may get an upgrade - price relief
    to a new product- that will come out in the next 6-9
    months or maybe even a serious price break on the
    G1000 series and they might have a lower cost G1000 to
    sweeten the pill.

    When you own the market ( and competitors are even
    more pig-headed, read King Bendix - I have a KMD 150
    which will not be upgraded to allow for functionality
    to compare say with the KMD 250 , or the 89B which
    does not supply a datastream that can use the GPPS
    from S-Tec for instance)) you can afford to screw your
    customers around some more.

    Sad but true!!

    HarryR
    MC360 Sierra ( in annual still trying to figure out
    what the engine is running a little rough, all
    cylinders and valves seem to be fine . Compression
    all in the high 70's. May pop for a JPI 700 now

    --- Mike Rellihan <rellihan@rellihan.com> wrote:

    > I have two fundamental problems with the trade-in
    > approach. The first is money. I'm retired, and a
    > 480 trade-up from a 430 is a very large expense to
    > me. The second is philosophical. I don't usually
    > buy more product from a company that is currently
    > screwing me over. And if I had a good email address
    > I thought they would actually see (they ignored my
    > earlier queries), I would CC Garmin on this. I own
    > a little of their stock (200 shares), and it dropped
    > another .82 point today.
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: ajpcps
    > To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:28 PM
    > Subject: [musketeermail] Re: The latest on WAAS
    > from Garmin
    >
    >
    > You could trade in for a Garmin 480. My unit is
    > already WAAS
    > capable. Shooting an LPV approach is just like an
    > ILS. Even an
    > LNAV/VNAV gets a glide path generation (for
    > guidance). I'm happy
    > with my unit. Mine is hooked up to my KCS 55 HSI
    > so I have full
    > guidance info directly in front.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Mike
    > Rellihan" <rellihan@r...>
    > wrote:
    > > When I saw this on the AOPA bulletin, I went to
    > the Garmin website
    > and could find nothing about it. So I spent the
    > next twenty minutes
    > on hold trying to call them, and finally got
    > through. It is true;
    > they recently decided that a major software
    > re-write was required,
    > and have postponed the upgrade availability date
    > yet a third time, to
    > 3Q 2006. The people handling the phone banks at
    > Garmin are really
    > getting beaten up over it, too.
    > >
    > > As a Garmin 430 owner, I find it frustrating.
    > As a Garmin
    > stockholder, I find it alarming. Their stock has
    > gone as high as 60,
    > but is currently back down to 43. It will
    > probably take another hit,
    > as this news spreads. It sure sounds like their
    > engineering
    > department (software and otherwise) has become
    > severely over-
    > extended, which sure doesn't bode well. I suspect
    > that Garmin's many
    > competitors are feeling pretty gleeful right now.
    > And no airframe
    > manufacturer in their right mind will keep putting
    > 430s/530s in their
    > panels, if customers who can afford the price tag
    > on a new plane
    > become increasingly aware of this WAAS limitation
    > and the repetitive
    > upgrade delays (as most will).
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: cloydvanhook
    > > To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:25 AM
    > > Subject: [musketeermail] The latest on WAAS
    > from Garmin
    > >
    > >
    > > This is from today's AOPA e-Pilot.
    > >
    > > GARMIN DELAYS WAAS UPGRADE TO POPULAR AVIONICS
    > > Garmin this week announced delays in scheduled
    > upgrades that will
    > > allow its GNS 430/530, GPS 400/500, and GNC
    > 420 avionics units to
    > take
    > > advantage of the Wide Area Augmentation System
    > (WAAS). According
    > to
    > > the company, a major software rewrite means
    > the WAAS upgrade
    > won't be
    > > available before the third quarter of 2006.
    > >
    > > Cloyd Van Hook
    > > President, BAC
    > >
    > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
    > removed]
    >
    >
    >
    >
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