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    Me vs. FBO

    I assume the FBO is your hangar lessor. If so, does your lease stipulate the conditions they're trying to force on you? If it does, you're hosed. If it doesn't, then you probably need to decide if fighting them will wreck you relationship with them and possibly result in you having to move. One pilot's opinion...

    Steven

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    From: davidweb <dkavanay@cableone.net>
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    Sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:23:48 -0000
    Subject: [musketeermail] Me vs. FBO


    my local FBO said I must buy parts from them if their mechanic is
    going to work on my plane. Cost plus 25%. they also said that I
    could not hire another mechanic to work on my plane in the T Hanger I
    lease.

    I think they are trying to hold me hostage.

    I have an A & P who will work on my plane in my T hanger for a rate of
    $30 per hour. He is insured. FBO wants $55 plus 25% on all parts I
    put on the plane.

    Help!! Advice!!!

    David






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  2. #2

    Me vs. FBO

    $55/hour is a STEAL! I'll trade you places and you can pay my guy
    $89/hr!

    Dennis




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    Me vs. FBO

    David,

    Check your hangar lease terms and conditions. If they did not present you
    with a copy of the terms and conditions when you signed the lease, you are
    legally able to do what you want.

    I changed airports because the new FBO owner would not allow me to do any
    work whatsoever while on his facility. That included changing the oil,
    changing tires, and rotating the spark plugs. He cited insurance, but I am
    sure he was lying. He only wants to increase the profits from his
    maintenance shop. I would have used his shop for minor non-owner repairs.
    Since I moved he is out $500 in tiedown rent, $75 for the stabilator hinge
    AD, and about $350 in avionics repairs. The place I moved allows the
    owner-pilot to do all of the preventative maintenance as allowed by the
    FARs, which is specifically allowed by their insurance policy (I had them
    check). However, I cannot have outside mechanics work on my plane while it
    is on airport property. The manager told me that the reason was because all
    of the airport businesses pay rent, taxes, and fees to the city to be
    there, and bringing someone in from the outside who is not paying the same
    overhead can easily undercut the on-field mechanic businesses. At least
    they were honest and truthful. Technically, I must do any preventative
    maintenance such as oil changes in a hangar, which I can rent for a day for
    $25. Since there are no mechanics or airport management there on weekends,
    I just do the work on Saturday or Sunday.

    If the plane is flyable, I take it to an A&P/IA at Tucson International who
    allows me to work on my own plane under his supervision. That is how I
    replaced two cylinders and installed a digital tachometer and vernier
    mixture control for a few hundred in labor. I learned a lot as well.

    Carl Foster Sundowner 9761L Tucson, Arizona



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  4. #4

    Me vs. FBO

    Do you have a signed lease agreement stating that? If not they can pound
    sand. I was Director of Operations for a major repair station a few years
    ago and the most we ever charged for material handling was 3% and that was
    on 747-400, DC-10 and 737-800. Our labor rate was $55/hr also.

    Jeff Bryant
    Southwest Regional Director
    Beech Aero Club


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    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of davidweb
    Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:24 AM
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [musketeermail] Me vs. FBO


    my local FBO said I must buy parts from them if their mechanic is
    going to work on my plane. Cost plus 25%. they also said that I
    could not hire another mechanic to work on my plane in the T Hanger I
    lease.

    I think they are trying to hold me hostage.

    I have an A & P who will work on my plane in my T hanger for a rate of
    $30 per hour. He is insured. FBO wants $55 plus 25% on all parts I
    put on the plane.

    Help!! Advice!!!

    David






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