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    Sierra as Trainer?

    Hey gang, I am bummed. Finally found an owner i could work with and
    Sundowner that I wanted but when I paid for annual plane had tons wrong with
    it and even though owner willing to pay to fix, was advised that i should
    move on. After trying to stay in the 40's for sundowner and finding that I
    really need to pay more and get a better sundowner, I note that for a
    supposedly really clean one i will have to pay in the high 50's or 60's. I
    then noticed that I can get a very good Sierra for about the same price
    range.

    Wouldn't it be better to buy a Sierra--which is what I note many Sundowner
    owners upgrade to--now and just put money in that and not have to upgrade
    then to pay same price for sundowner? A few people awhile back told me you
    can't get a retractable for your training. I can't remember why. Can't you
    just keep the gear down and pretend it is a fixed gear until you become
    proficient or am I being naive and missing something?
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    The price ranges for Sundowners and Sierras overlap but for the same vintage airplane with the same equipment you'll pay more for the Sierra. So if you get a Sierra for what you'd pay for a Sundowner you're probably looking at an older, not as well equipped airplane.

    As to the trainer question. I've noted several members that bought Sierras and got their private tickets in them. Maybe one of our CFIs will answer but I'm not aware of anything that says you can't train in a retract. I also don't think you'd have to keep the wheels down.

    On the other hand if the Sierra is where you want to go you probably ought to buy it right off and skip the intermediate step. You won't recover much of what you put into the plane that you'll sell to buy the Sierra.

    Cloyd Van Hook
    President, BAC

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    Sierra as Trainer?

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    > From: "Lamb, John" <JLamb@Courts.sp.state.az.us>
    > Date: 2005/09/27 Tue PM 12:01:28 EDT
    > To: "'bac-mail@beechaeroclub.org'" <bac-mail@beechaeroclub.org>
    > Subject: [BAC-Mail] Sierra as Trainer?
    >
    >
    > A few people awhile back told me you
    > can't get a retractable for your training. I can't remember why. Can't you
    > just keep the gear down and pretend it is a fixed gear until you become
    > proficient or am I being naive and missing something?

    You can train in the Sierra, I know because I did. I already had a glider rating with self-launch, but I didn't exactly get it in a "conventional" aircraft. To make a long story short, the first time I ever had my feet on a pair of rudder pedals it was in my Sierra..
    Until then, I had been flying “trikes” (powered hang gliders). I bought the Sierra before I had a SEL add on, and thus needed all my training in the aircraft. I had NEVER flown a GA aircraft before I flew the Sierra. Personally, I think it was a benefit doing it that way

    I have a friend with Mooney 201, and one with a Cessna 182. I LOVE my Sierra.
    When I first got it, I figured I would want something else after a couple of years, perhaps something sexier, or a bit faster. Nope, the more I fly it the more I like it. .

    Insurance was pricey, but not as bad as I was told it was going to be. My first year (which included the training) and ZERO time in retract or SEL, cost me $2400. Second year it dropped to $1700.

    BTW, I never could understand all the fuss about the Sierra being difficult to land. I never once porpoised the thing, and as long as you get the numbers right, and don’t get anxious, it really is easy to land.

    Barry
    N1959L





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    Sierra as Trainer?

    Hey John Lamb; Did my email get to you? It didn't show up on the thread, so I must have hit the wrong selection! Lee Robinson W. Palm Beach, FL
    >
    > From: "Lamb, John" <JLamb@Courts.sp.state.az.us>
    > Date: 2005/09/27 Tue PM 12:01:28 EDT
    > To: "'bac-mail@beechaeroclub.org'" <bac-mail@beechaeroclub.org>
    > Subject: [BAC-Mail] Sierra as Trainer?
    >
    >
    > Hey gang, I am bummed. Finally found an owner i could work with and
    > Sundowner that I wanted but when I paid for annual plane had tons wrong with
    > it and even though owner willing to pay to fix, was advised that i should
    > move on. After trying to stay in the 40's for sundowner and finding that I
    > really need to pay more and get a better sundowner, I note that for a
    > supposedly really clean one i will have to pay in the high 50's or 60's. I
    > then noticed that I can get a very good Sierra for about the same price
    > range.
    >
    > Wouldn't it be better to buy a Sierra--which is what I note many Sundowner
    > owners upgrade to--now and just put money in that and not have to upgrade
    > then to pay same price for sundowner? A few people awhile back told me you
    > can't get a retractable for your training. I can't remember why. Can't you
    > just keep the gear down and pretend it is a fixed gear until you become
    > proficient or am I being naive and missing something?
    > _______________________________________________
    > BAC-Mail mailing list
    > BAC-Mail@beechaeroclub.org
    > http://www.beechaeroclub.org/mailman/listinfo/bac-mail
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