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    BEST Idea I have had this year...

    Sir:

    Is this possible? An Innodyne 165HP or 180HP turbine on a Beech Musketeer, Sport
    150 or Sundowner airframe, or 200HP for the Musketeer Super model and the Sierra
    retractable?

    The power upgrades for the Beech AeroCenter aircraft are non-existant, but there
    are several thousand very loyal owners of Musketeer, Sport, Sierra and Sundowner
    aircraft.

    These owners soldier on maintaining and upgrading their aircraft, which we all
    believe to be the best-built 4 place aircraft ever made.

    Many members of early Musketeers have Continental O-346 engines that are becoming
    very hard to find parts, especially crankshafts and cases.

    Others, like myself, have an airframe rated for up to 200HP and 2,700# GW, but
    performance limited by the O-320-E3D 150HP engine and inefficient fixed-pitch
    propeller, and have difficulty taking off and climbing even at a limited maximum
    of 2,150#.

    As I stated, ther are no STCs for power upgrades for our model aircraft.

    I understand that this type of upgrade would place my aircraft in an Experimental
    Class. But as I, and most of my flying Musketeer Owner friends, would be very
    unlikely to sell our aircraft in the future, IF we had sufficient power from a
    dependable inexpensive to maintain engine burning available fuels. The
    Experimental designation might not be a detraction at all! AND everyone with an
    piston-powered aircraft is aware of the very limited future for 100LL fuel!

    So, if you could discuss this project with your associates, the over 500 members
    of the Beech Aero Club (www.beechaeroclub.org) and 2,500 registered owners of
    Aerocenter Aircraft would be very interested in your conclusions.

    Congratulations on your new association with Innodyne. This partnership could
    represent the future for those of us who own 'Orphaned' aircraft with obsolete
    (and certainly old technology) engines, but would never think of selling them!

    Sincerely,

    Bill Howard
    BeechSportBill
    N1927W 1973 Sport 150
    Beech Aero Club NorthWest Region Director
    541-938-8314


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    BEST Idea I have had this year...

    Bob Steward wrote:
    It can be bolted on to anything from an airboat to a barn door. So yes, someone
    with a spare $30,000 burning a hole in their pocket could buy the engine and
    start mocking up the engine mount and cowl. Then there is the prop, another $7-10K.

    =======

    Bob - bob - bob - bob!

    This is a perfect job for Firewall Forward, Inc.

    $4 gallon JP-4 is better than NO 100LL, right! I already put $175 in my
    Skylane once!

    Also, an IO-346 with no crank would make an owner pretty cranky, right?

    Innodyne sez 9 gph per 100 hp. Not much different, and if I could cruse in the
    Green arc instead of the White?? What's the Yellow arc for? And that Red line?

    And they are talking 5,000 hr tbo w/ an overhaul for $8,000 (ONE moving part, and
    a (1) spark plug. Gotta be able to buy lots of fuel with that!

    Cruizing too fast? I tried full power straight down (actually, 30 degrees w/ idle
    power) and got 120Kts!

    Its only 165 HP! NOT like the 750HP Walther Turbine upgrade on all the Lancair
    IVs I watched them building by the 5s down in Redmond!

    Stability? The tail on my Sport is already rated for 200HP, and the spin parts
    might be plenty fun to have anyway - how about the skeg on the Lear 45! Add a
    couple VHF Blade antennas down there, that ought to do it!? With an ORCA paint
    job, it'd be AWSUM!

    Speaking of 'fish' paint jobs, I hear there's a new 'Salmon-painted' Alaska Air
    Regional, and at the 'unveiling' it was taxiing along with TWO of the SWA Orcas
    following it! That must have had the folks at Alaska howling!

    I took the 'move the CG back' as a positive, and the pointy cowl? The Bonanza
    folks are NUTS over this upgrade! TWO OF THEM came to BeechDay! The RV demo
    looks like a JET!

    So, rather than fly our Starships to the graveyard and watch Beech chop them up
    cuz there's no more 100LL or IO-365s, it might be time to 'see the future' and
    HEAR the future - that 10,000 rpm growl!

    Now that makes me say "YEEHAAW!"

    Bill Howard
    BeechSportBill
    N1927W 1973 Sport 150
    Beech Aero Club NorthWest Region Director
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