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  1. #1

    [musketeermail] Avionics ADF KR-86 Help Needed

    Steve, I'll honor your wishes about the GPS. Regardless, you are pouring
    money into a rat-hole trying to get and keep an ADF working in this day and
    age. Everything you touch on them costs a relative fortune, and I suspect
    you can count on one hand, the number of shops left in the country that can
    conclusively repair them. Most just throw your parts money at the problem
    anymore. The shops have lost all their experience with them over the past
    ten years, and parts have dried up as well. I have posted on this subject
    before. I have also posted on a radiated interference problem with them
    that is somewhat unique to our planes; the wiring between the regulator and
    alternator, and regulator and OV relay, both on the cabin side of the
    firewall. You can do a BAC search on 'KR86 ADF' and read all of it, if you
    like.







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    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of n7991l
    Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:25 PM
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [musketeermail] Avionics ADF KR-86 Help Needed



    I have an ADF, KR-86 that I have spent lots of money in last 2 years to
    fix but still does not work. Please no comments about GPS, I don't have
    the cash and I want to get this going so I can complete my IFR ticket.

    I'm pretty convinced that the antenna a KA-42B is bad. The reason is
    that the ADF pretty much only points to nose or tail. On ground with
    strong radio station it will point "correctly" but not with NDB. I
    have eliminated electrial interference, that was the old reason but
    ain't the one now, pretty confident of this statement.

    I do not have an avionics shop on my field. Does anyone have an idea
    on how to test the KA-42B. What should the loop impedance be, how
    about the sense. Anyway to eliminate the sense or the loop from the
    equation?

    Better yet anyone have a KA-42B laying around that I could test/buy if
    it fixes my problem.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Steve





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    [musketeermail] Avionics ADF KR-86 Help Needed

    Steve, I you "must' have an ADF to pass the test...why
    don't you RENT an airplane for the test and stop
    throwing money in the deep bottomless ADF money pit..
    Maybe there is a Musketeer driver somewhere close to
    you who has the equipment that is needed and is
    prepared to let you borrow his aircraft for a few
    hours...

    Cheers
    HarryR


    --- Mike Rellihan <rellihan@rellihan.com> wrote:

    > Steve, I'll honor your wishes about the GPS.
    > Regardless, you are pouring
    > money into a rat-hole trying to get and keep an ADF
    > working in this day and
    > age. Everything you touch on them costs a relative
    > fortune, and I suspect
    > you can count on one hand, the number of shops left
    > in the country that can
    > conclusively repair them. Most just throw your
    > parts money at the problem
    > anymore. The shops have lost all their experience
    > with them over the past
    > ten years, and parts have dried up as well. I have
    > posted on this subject
    > before. I have also posted on a radiated
    > interference problem with them
    > that is somewhat unique to our planes; the wiring
    > between the regulator and
    > alternator, and regulator and OV relay, both on the
    > cabin side of the
    > firewall. You can do a BAC search on 'KR86 ADF' and
    > read all of it, if you
    > like.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    > [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    > On Behalf Of n7991l
    > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:25 PM
    > To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [musketeermail] Avionics ADF KR-86 Help
    > Needed
    >
    >
    >
    > I have an ADF, KR-86 that I have spent lots of money
    > in last 2 years to
    > fix but still does not work. Please no comments
    > about GPS, I don't have
    > the cash and I want to get this going so I can
    > complete my IFR ticket.
    >
    > I'm pretty convinced that the antenna a KA-42B is
    > bad. The reason is
    > that the ADF pretty much only points to nose or
    > tail. On ground with
    > strong radio station it will point "correctly" but
    > not with NDB. I
    > have eliminated electrial interference, that was the
    > old reason but
    > ain't the one now, pretty confident of this
    > statement.
    >
    > I do not have an avionics shop on my field. Does
    > anyone have an idea
    > on how to test the KA-42B. What should the loop
    > impedance be, how
    > about the sense. Anyway to eliminate the sense or
    > the loop from the
    > equation?
    >
    > Better yet anyone have a KA-42B laying around that I
    > could test/buy if
    > it fixes my problem.
    >
    > Any help would be appreciated.
    >
    > Steve
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Join BAC today and be a part of the ONLY Type Club
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    [musketeermail] Avionics ADF KR-86 Help Needed

    Steve,

    I have an ADF that I removed so I would not have to fool with it on my
    instrument check ride. Every once in a while it would not work. I think it
    was a simple connection but did not ask our avionics shop to look at it, as
    it was easier to remove it. I just did not want it to "not" work on the
    check ride.

    It is for sale. Not sure the make but will check if you are interested. I
    would risk my vfr GPS illegally in instrument conditions rather than use an
    ADF. Personal opinion. I have a Garmin 396 that is really cool.

    Brent Flory
    Freedom Lawns
    N257RD




    -----Original Message-----
    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of Mike Rellihan
    Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 6:47 PM
    To: 'n7991l'; musketeermail@yahoogroups.com; bac-mail@beechaeroclub.org
    Subject: RE: [musketeermail] Avionics ADF KR-86 Help Needed

    Steve, I'll honor your wishes about the GPS. Regardless, you are pouring
    money into a rat-hole trying to get and keep an ADF working in this day and
    age. Everything you touch on them costs a relative fortune, and I suspect
    you can count on one hand, the number of shops left in the country that can
    conclusively repair them. Most just throw your parts money at the problem
    anymore. The shops have lost all their experience with them over the past
    ten years, and parts have dried up as well. I have posted on this subject
    before. I have also posted on a radiated interference problem with them
    that is somewhat unique to our planes; the wiring between the regulator and
    alternator, and regulator and OV relay, both on the cabin side of the
    firewall. You can do a BAC search on 'KR86 ADF' and read all of it, if you
    like.







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    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of n7991l
    Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:25 PM
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [musketeermail] Avionics ADF KR-86 Help Needed



    I have an ADF, KR-86 that I have spent lots of money in last 2 years to
    fix but still does not work. Please no comments about GPS, I don't have
    the cash and I want to get this going so I can complete my IFR ticket.

    I'm pretty convinced that the antenna a KA-42B is bad. The reason is
    that the ADF pretty much only points to nose or tail. On ground with
    strong radio station it will point "correctly" but not with NDB. I
    have eliminated electrial interference, that was the old reason but
    ain't the one now, pretty confident of this statement.

    I do not have an avionics shop on my field. Does anyone have an idea
    on how to test the KA-42B. What should the loop impedance be, how
    about the sense. Anyway to eliminate the sense or the loop from the
    equation?

    Better yet anyone have a KA-42B laying around that I could test/buy if
    it fixes my problem.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Steve





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