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  1. #1

    Winterization kit

    Be Careful.
    I found that My oil temp gauge was reading almost 30 lower that the oil
    temp really was. Have the temp bulb tested and gauges first

    Jeff Bryant


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    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of Kerry Muller
    Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:52 AM
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [musketeermail] Winterization kit


    I've seen the pictures of the panel that covers the lower engine
    compartment aft of the strut and the oil cooler cover, but does anyone
    know where I might locate one of these kits - at least the engine
    cover?

    As is typical, my oil temp reads low and last winter I covered the oil
    cooler with duct tape. Is it worth it to try to fabricate a cover
    like the Beech part? Also noticed this month that the oil temp reading
    is becoming somewhat intermitent and sometimes tapping the guage helps.

    Also, been reading the thread on door seals as mine need to be
    replaced. If I order the Beech seals, how hard are they to actually
    install without taking the doors off? Are they glued on?

    Any info appreciated..
    Kerry
    6629R







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  2. #2

    Winterization kit

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    From: Mike Rellihan [mailto:mike@rellihan.com]
    Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:56 PM
    To: 'Jeff and Teresa Bryant'; 'Kerry Muller';
    'musketeermail@yahoogroups.com'; 'BAC Mail'
    Subject: RE: [musketeermail] Winterization kit



    As has been posted before, unless they have been replaced or overhauled
    within the past 10-15 years, nearly all the oil temp gauges are probably
    reading low. That seems to be the most common failure mode. The sensing
    bulb itself is a MilSpec piece, and seldom goes bad.



    You can make a quick rough check by going to the plane on a day that is at
    least 60 degrees F ambient. Turn on the Master, ideally with the engine
    running or a battery charger (or boosted) connected (to get closer to the
    normal 14.2 voltage). See what the reading is on the oil temp gauge. You
    should be able to interpolate the needle reading, and see how it compares to
    the ambient temp. You might be surprised to see how far off it is.



    If your needle isnt within about 1/16 of the dot in the green in normal
    power cruise in (plus or minus ten ) 70-degree OAT (if your gauge is
    configured like that), and assuming your Vernatherm is good, your gauge is
    likely out of calibration (usually toward the cold side, at least on the
    Rochester gauge systems). On many of the engines, another symptom will be
    hot oil pressure down to 60 PSI or so, when the engine is being run hard in
    climb and high-power cruise; rather than the more normal 75-85 PSI. This is
    often an early indication of unrecognized high oil temps.



    In the planes with a constant-speed prop, RPM regulation will fade when oil
    pressure drops to 55 PSI or so, if it is happening due to high oil temps.
    That means that the oil viscosity has effectively gone below SAE 5 (yes,
    five), due to heat. The governors are bench tested with hot five-weight
    oil, and will still regulate under those conditions. Once the temps hit
    about 270 degrees and pressure drops to about 55 PSI, the prop will go
    (uncommanded) to the high-RPM stops (supposed to be 2,700, but I have seen
    as high as 2,800), as the governor can no longer provide enough pressure to
    limit RPM. A power reduction is required to control prop RPM, as in a
    fixed-pitch plane, while in a slight descent; the combination will cool off
    the oil fairly quickly. A bad Vernatherm is the most likely cause of true
    oil temp problems (high or low), though there can clearly be other factors.





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    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of Jeff and Teresa Bryant
    Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:21 PM
    To: 'Kerry Muller'; musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [musketeermail] Winterization kit



    Be Careful.
    I found that My oil temp gauge was reading almost 30 lower that the oil
    temp really was. Have the temp bulb tested and gauges first

    Jeff Bryant


    _____

    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of Kerry Muller
    Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:52 AM
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [musketeermail] Winterization kit


    I've seen the pictures of the panel that covers the lower engine
    compartment aft of the strut and the oil cooler cover, but does anyone
    know where I might locate one of these kits - at least the engine
    cover?

    As is typical, my oil temp reads low and last winter I covered the oil
    cooler with duct tape. Is it worth it to try to fabricate a cover
    like the Beech part? Also noticed this month that the oil temp reading
    is becoming somewhat intermitent and sometimes tapping the guage helps.

    Also, been reading the thread on door seals as mine need to be
    replaced. If I order the Beech seals, how hard are they to actually
    install without taking the doors off? Are they glued on?

    Any info appreciated..
    Kerry
    6629R

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  3. #3

    Winterization kit

    I saw pictures of the Beech cold weather kit in the photo gallery section of
    the BAC website. Once to the photo gallery, click on the maintenance photos
    file. Entire maintenance photo section is very helpful. The only thing
    missing from the photo description of the posted cold weather kit photos is
    the part numbers of the 2 parts displayed.



    If you are a BAC member, here is the link.



    http://www.beechaeroclub.org/index.p...ule=photoshare
    <http://www.beechaeroclub.org/index.p...wimages&fi
    d=63> &func=showimages&fid=63



    If anyone has or runs across the part numbers for these to parts, please
    post them or respond to me off-line.



    Thanks.





    Mark Perry

    N6997R (M-1745)





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    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of Kerry Muller
    Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 AM
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [musketeermail] Winterization kit



    I've seen the pictures of the panel that covers the lower engine
    compartment aft of the strut and the oil cooler cover, but does anyone
    know where I might locate one of these kits - at least the engine
    cover?

    As is typical, my oil temp reads low and last winter I covered the oil
    cooler with duct tape. Is it worth it to try to fabricate a cover
    like the Beech part? Also noticed this month that the oil temp reading
    is becoming somewhat intermitent and sometimes tapping the guage helps.

    Also, been reading the thread on door seals as mine need to be
    replaced. If I order the Beech seals, how hard are they to actually
    install without taking the doors off? Are they glued on?

    Any info appreciated..
    Kerry
    6629R







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