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  1. #1

    Paint

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    I has a skin area repaired on my Beech. The repair was completed
    within a reasonable time frame. A separate contractor was called upon
    to paint an approximate four square foot area. It has been six weeks
    and no word from him, nothing. The skin is bare and want it painted.

    Has anyone ever painted a small area of their plane for themselves?
    Could I rent a sprayer or applicator and just do it myself?


    Thank you

    8786M







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  2. #2

    Paint

    Piece of cake 86M.
    For that size area, all you need is a touch up gun. Go to any
    automotive, home repair (Lowe's / Home Depot), or Spruce to get the gun, air/water
    separator, and air compressor. Aircraft Spruce has books on painting (by
    Polycoat) or go to your local library. I painted my plane with Emron automotive
    paint (not the environmental hassels you get with painting aircraft paints).
    Select a clean area, no wind, low humidity, and a temperature between 70d and
    85d F. Mask the area and provide coverage for overspary -- many feet past
    the spray area. Prep work is very important.
    Matching the paint will be the hardest part of the job. Most automotive
    collision repair places can match your paint and will sell you the paint
    mixed and ready to spray -- its not cheap. It is probably a two-part paint
    (hardener added) so it must be sprayed right away -- within a day or so; not
    minutes or hours. All your prep work needs to be done so all you have to do is
    get the paint then go to the plane and spray.
    Spray with long, even strokes and maintain air on the trigger (two
    position trigger -- air, air & paint). Start your stroke and apply paint just
    before you get to the surface to be painted and release after you pass the
    distant edge. Overlap your strokes by 1/3. Keep strokes uniform, maintain the
    same distance (9 to 15 inches) from the surface (don't arch your stroke), and
    apply multiple light coats. It only takes a few minutes to set up before
    applying the next coat. Apply the next coat at 90d to the previous coat. Watch
    for runs (applying too much paint at one time) and watch for blushing
    (humidity too high) and for cracking or beading (surface not prepared properly --
    grease, body oil, finger print, pollen, etc on the surface keeping the paint
    from adhering). Practice on something using paint thinner in the gun to get
    the technique and spray pattern down and adjusted before spraying the paint.
    Hope this helps.
    Good luck,
    Chuz
    BAC SE Region director



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  3. #3

    Paint

    Be extremely careful in how you strip paint, as most commercial
    strippers will corrode aluminum badly once the get between riveted
    pieces. There's info on this and which are usable in the BAC
    archives. Before painting, use some Alumiprep and Alodine, which are
    each about $10-$120/qt from Aircraft Spruce.
    Bob
    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy Floe" <sandy040@...>
    wrote:
    >
    >
    > Chuz and all,
    >
    > Thanks for the interesting info.
    >
    > When we strip down to the bare aluminum don't we have to prime the
    surface
    > with something like zinc chromate prior to the application of the
    Emron?
    >
    > Sandy
    > Be 23
    > M1229
    > Packwood, WA
    >
    > ---- Original Message -----
    > From: <ChuzBear@...>
    > To: <jm8995@...>; <musketeermail@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:56 AM
    > Subject: Re: [musketeermail] Paint
    >
    >
    > >
    > > Piece of cake 86M.
    > > For that size area, all you need is a touch up gun. Go to
    any
    > > automotive, home repair (Lowe's / Home Depot), or Spruce to get
    the gun,
    > > air/water
    > > separator, and air compressor. Aircraft Spruce has books on
    painting (by
    > > Polycoat) or go to your local library. I painted my plane with
    Emron
    > > automotive
    > > paint (not the environmental hassels you get with painting
    aircraft
    > > paints).
    > > Select a clean area, no wind, low humidity, and a temperature
    between 70d
    > > and
    > > 85d F. Mask the area and provide coverage for overspary --
    many feet
    > > past
    > > the spray area. Prep work is very important.
    > > Matching the paint will be the hardest part of the job.
    Most
    > > automotive
    > > collision repair places can match your paint and will sell you
    the paint
    > > mixed and ready to spray -- its not cheap. It is probably a
    two-part
    > > paint
    > > (hardener added) so it must be sprayed right away -- within a
    day or so;
    > > not
    > > minutes or hours. All your prep work needs to be done so all
    you have to
    > > do is
    > > get the paint then go to the plane and spray.
    > > Spray with long, even strokes and maintain air on the
    trigger (two
    > > position trigger -- air, air & paint). Start your stroke and
    apply paint
    > > just
    > > before you get to the surface to be painted and release after
    you pass
    > > the
    > > distant edge. Overlap your strokes by 1/3. Keep strokes
    uniform,
    > > maintain the
    > > same distance (9 to 15 inches) from the surface (don't arch
    your stroke),
    > > and
    > > apply multiple light coats. It only takes a few minutes to set
    up before
    > > applying the next coat. Apply the next coat at 90d to the
    previous coat.
    > > Watch
    > > for runs (applying too much paint at one time) and watch for
    blushing
    > > (humidity too high) and for cracking or beading (surface not
    prepared
    > > properly --
    > > grease, body oil, finger print, pollen, etc on the surface
    keeping the
    > > paint
    > > from adhering). Practice on something using paint thinner in
    the gun to
    > > get
    > > the technique and spray pattern down and adjusted before
    spraying the
    > > paint.
    > > Hope this helps.
    > > Good luck,
    > > Chuz
    > > BAC SE Region director
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Join BAC today and be a part of the ONLY Type Club for the
    Musketeer
    > > series!
    > >
    > > www.beechaeroclub.org
    > >
    > >
    > > Yahoo! Groups Links
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >







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  4. #4

    Paint

    Sandy,
    Yes, that is part of the prep work. It does not have to be zinc chromate
    but an acceptable primer and a very light coat; paint adds weight. If
    stripping, watch what you use - use an aircraft approved stripper and don't leave
    exposed to the open air too long. Follow the manufacturer's instructions for
    application, work time, and stop action.
    Chuz


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