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    Stand-Alone Comms - Follow Up

    I just installed 2 MX-170C radios in my Bonanza. Exact slide in replacements
    for the KX-170B. Just remove and replace.

    $1,400 from Spruce. Digital readout and standby freq.

    Jeff


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    From: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:musketeermail@yahoogroups.com]
    On Behalf Of Robert Gresli
    Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:14 PM
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [musketeermail] Stand-Alone Comms - Follow Up


    Musketeer Group,

    I've received several good reviews on the King KX-155. I had a KX-155 in
    my old Grumman that worked great.

    However, I'm only interested in a stand-alone comm. I already have a
    KX-170B nav/com that works well and want a modern digital comm to go with
    it.

    I'm not interested in adding 'curb appeal' to my Skipper since I'm not
    planning to sell anytime soon.

    I have also determined that if I want IFR capability, it will be time for an

    entirely new aircraft.

    Any further suggestions or experiences with stand alone comms are greatly
    appreciated.

    Thanks again.

    Bob Gresli
    Skipper 6636E

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Harry Roussard" <hroussar@yahoo.com>
    To: "ajpcps" <ajpcps@yahoo.com>; <musketeermail@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:43 AM
    Subject: Re: [musketeermail] Re: Stand-Alone Comms


    > Agree with the copmments on the KX 155 . It's a
    > STANDARD folks and it adds money to the value of the
    > aircraft.
    > HarryR
    >
    > --- ajpcps <ajpcps@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >> For the money, it's awfully hard to beat a KX 155,
    >> IMO. I'd go for
    >> one with a glideslope for ILS approaches. For a
    >> handheld GPS, don't
    >> overlook one of the Tablet PC based systems. Some
    >> of these have
    >> terrain, can be set-up for satellite weather and can
    >> store the
    >> approach plates and other charts.
    >>
    >>
    >> --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Robert
    >> Gresli" <FlyBE77@...>
    >> wrote:
    >> >
    >> > Musketeer Group,
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I so appreciate all the feedback I've received on
    >> avionics
    >> questions. The avionics in my Skipper are currently
    >> as follows, top
    >> to bottom:
    >> >
    >> > King KX-170B Navcom - KI208 (no/GS)
    >> >
    >> > King KT-78A Transponder
    >> >
    >> > Narco DME 190 DME
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I also have a separate Pilot PA-200T portable
    >> intercom velcroed to
    >> the pedestal below the trim wheel.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I want to replace the DME-190 and get a GPS and a
    >> second comm. I
    >> considered a Panel Mounted VFR GPS/Com. However,
    >> most of you are
    >> devotees to hand held VFR GPS units. I've seen used
    >> Garmin 196s and
    >> 296s on Ebay for very decent prices. I have to
    >> agree that the 196
    >> and 296 do have better displays and features than
    >> the panel mounted
    >> VFR GPS units.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I want a second comm to go with the old KX-170B.
    >> The KX-170B is
    >> working fine at the moment. I originally wanted to
    >> replace the KX-
    >> 170B right away last year when I got the Skipper.
    >> However, I've had
    >> no problems with it so I'll just keep it until it
    >> breaks. I'm
    >> planning on replacing the KX-170B with a slide-in
    >> TKM MX-170C
    >> whenever it stops working. I've receive a lot of
    >> good reviews of the
    >> MX-170(B/C) from the group.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I know that I'll need some kind of switching panel
    >> with a second
    >> comm. I'm leaning towards the PS Engineering
    >> PMA-4000 Audio Panel
    >> with built-in intercom. This will provide for
    >> multiple comm
    >> switching and also replace the PA-200T portable
    >> intercom.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > What stand alone comm units would you recommend
    >> for a primary
    >> comm? I would like to have a modern digital unit
    >> with the flip-flop
    >> feature.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I'm told that the Garmin SL-40 is a very good
    >> unit. However, it is
    >> also one of the most expensive at about $1250 plus
    >> installation at my
    >> local shop. I also think the SL-40 can interface
    >> with a GPS 396
    >> handheld. However, at $2500 the GPS 396 is a bit
    >> too much for my
    >> budget anytime soon.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I've seen used King KY-97 and KY-197 units on Ebay
    >> for reasonable
    >> prices.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > A new ICOM IC-A200-TSO is also very inexpensive at
    >> around $850.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Any new unit would also come with a warrantee,
    >> which is very nice.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I had a TKM MX-11 comm in my old Grumman Traveler
    >> as a #2 comm to a
    >> KX-155 Navcom. I would normally use the KX-155 as
    >> my primary comm.
    >> The MX-11 didn't work anywhere near as well as the
    >> KX-155. I could
    >> get ATIS clearly about 35 miles from my field on the
    >> KX-155, whereas
    >> the MX-11 wouldn't pick up anything. The MX-11 also
    >> required me to
    >> constantly adjust the squelch with a small
    >> screwdriver the air and it
    >> was a pain. Given this personal experience, I'm not
    >> considering the
    >> MX-11.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I want a stand alone comm that is as good or
    >> better than a KX-155
    >> or KX-170B.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > What stand alone comm would any of you recommend?
    >> Thanks again for
    >> all your opinions, advise, and experiences.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Bob Gresli
    >> >
    >> > Skipper 6636E
    >> >
    >> > Hillsboro OR (HIO)
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
    >> removed]
    >> >
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
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  2. #2

    Stand-Alone Comms - Follow Up

    Reception is really more antenna-based and most of the radios aren't
    too different. The difference is more in output power for
    broadcast, clarity, and how long the radio will last. If you don't
    mind spending the money, the Kings are hard to beat for output, plus
    are proven in everything else. In bang for the buck, it's hard to
    beat the VAL760 comm, which is the line radio in probably more FBOs
    and airports than any other. To me, the other options fall in
    between.
    Bob
    A&P, Aero Eng
    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gresli" <FlyBE77@...>
    wrote:
    >
    > Musketeer Group,
    >
    > I've received several good reviews on the King KX-155. I had a
    KX-155 in
    > my old Grumman that worked great.
    >
    > However, I'm only interested in a stand-alone comm. I already
    have a
    > KX-170B nav/com that works well and want a modern digital comm to
    go with
    > it.
    >
    > I'm not interested in adding 'curb appeal' to my Skipper since I'm
    not
    > planning to sell anytime soon.
    >
    > I have also determined that if I want IFR capability, it will be
    time for an
    > entirely new aircraft.
    >
    > Any further suggestions or experiences with stand alone comms are
    greatly
    > appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks again.
    >
    > Bob Gresli
    > Skipper 6636E
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Harry Roussard" <hroussar@...>
    > To: "ajpcps" <ajpcps@...>; <musketeermail@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:43 AM
    > Subject: Re: [musketeermail] Re: Stand-Alone Comms
    >
    >
    > > Agree with the copmments on the KX 155 . It's a
    > > STANDARD folks and it adds money to the value of the
    > > aircraft.
    > > HarryR
    > >
    > > --- ajpcps <ajpcps@...> wrote:
    > >
    > >> For the money, it's awfully hard to beat a KX 155,
    > >> IMO. I'd go for
    > >> one with a glideslope for ILS approaches. For a
    > >> handheld GPS, don't
    > >> overlook one of the Tablet PC based systems. Some
    > >> of these have
    > >> terrain, can be set-up for satellite weather and can
    > >> store the
    > >> approach plates and other charts.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Robert
    > >> Gresli" <FlyBE77@>
    > >> wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> > Musketeer Group,
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I so appreciate all the feedback I've received on
    > >> avionics
    > >> questions. The avionics in my Skipper are currently
    > >> as follows, top
    > >> to bottom:
    > >> >
    > >> > King KX-170B Navcom - KI208 (no/GS)
    > >> >
    > >> > King KT-78A Transponder
    > >> >
    > >> > Narco DME 190 DME
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I also have a separate Pilot PA-200T portable
    > >> intercom velcroed to
    > >> the pedestal below the trim wheel.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I want to replace the DME-190 and get a GPS and a
    > >> second comm. I
    > >> considered a Panel Mounted VFR GPS/Com. However,
    > >> most of you are
    > >> devotees to hand held VFR GPS units. I've seen used
    > >> Garmin 196s and
    > >> 296s on Ebay for very decent prices. I have to
    > >> agree that the 196
    > >> and 296 do have better displays and features than
    > >> the panel mounted
    > >> VFR GPS units.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I want a second comm to go with the old KX-170B.
    > >> The KX-170B is
    > >> working fine at the moment. I originally wanted to
    > >> replace the KX-
    > >> 170B right away last year when I got the Skipper.
    > >> However, I've had
    > >> no problems with it so I'll just keep it until it
    > >> breaks. I'm
    > >> planning on replacing the KX-170B with a slide-in
    > >> TKM MX-170C
    > >> whenever it stops working. I've receive a lot of
    > >> good reviews of the
    > >> MX-170(B/C) from the group.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I know that I'll need some kind of switching panel
    > >> with a second
    > >> comm. I'm leaning towards the PS Engineering
    > >> PMA-4000 Audio Panel
    > >> with built-in intercom. This will provide for
    > >> multiple comm
    > >> switching and also replace the PA-200T portable
    > >> intercom.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > What stand alone comm units would you recommend
    > >> for a primary
    > >> comm? I would like to have a modern digital unit
    > >> with the flip-flop
    > >> feature.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I'm told that the Garmin SL-40 is a very good
    > >> unit. However, it is
    > >> also one of the most expensive at about $1250 plus
    > >> installation at my
    > >> local shop. I also think the SL-40 can interface
    > >> with a GPS 396
    > >> handheld. However, at $2500 the GPS 396 is a bit
    > >> too much for my
    > >> budget anytime soon.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I've seen used King KY-97 and KY-197 units on Ebay
    > >> for reasonable
    > >> prices.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > A new ICOM IC-A200-TSO is also very inexpensive at
    > >> around $850.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > Any new unit would also come with a warrantee,
    > >> which is very nice.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I had a TKM MX-11 comm in my old Grumman Traveler
    > >> as a #2 comm to a
    > >> KX-155 Navcom. I would normally use the KX-155 as
    > >> my primary comm.
    > >> The MX-11 didn't work anywhere near as well as the
    > >> KX-155. I could
    > >> get ATIS clearly about 35 miles from my field on the
    > >> KX-155, whereas
    > >> the MX-11 wouldn't pick up anything. The MX-11 also
    > >> required me to
    > >> constantly adjust the squelch with a small
    > >> screwdriver the air and it
    > >> was a pain. Given this personal experience, I'm not
    > >> considering the
    > >> MX-11.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > I want a stand alone comm that is as good or
    > >> better than a KX-155
    > >> or KX-170B.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > What stand alone comm would any of you recommend?
    > >> Thanks again for
    > >> all your opinions, advise, and experiences.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > Bob Gresli
    > >> >
    > >> > Skipper 6636E
    > >> >
    > >> > Hillsboro OR (HIO)
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
    > >> removed]
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
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