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    Sale of my Beautiful 1977 Beech Sierra C24R

    I have hesitated to post my Sierra on Musketeermail, but I have not
    yet sold my aircraft through other advertisements. I have owned the
    A/C for six years and no longer need a long distance cruiser since I
    retired in March 06.
    C-GGKP is advertised on "aviationclassifieds.com"; "barnstormers.com";
    as well as "buysellaviation.com". Picture and panel photos are also
    posted on Musketeer Photos.
    The aircraft is very well equipped and a wonderful performer, it has
    been professionally maintained. I cruise at 120kt using 9.5US Gal/hr.
    The autopilot is linked to the GPS, VOR, and ILS, a fantastic feature
    for long trips.
    I am asking US$95,000 and I know that sounds a little high but the
    aircraft is well equipped and in very good shape... it is a fantastic
    machine for someone needing to fly long cross country trips as I did
    when living in Moosonee, Ontario.
    The Sierra is now located here in Hanover, Ontario where we have
    settled after our working in the far North.
    I look forward to hearing from group members and perhaps there will be
    a buyer available. Thank you.




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    Sale of my Beautiful 1977 Beech Sierra C24R

    Peter,

    Interesting that you are only getting 120 KTS @ 9.5 gph. We get 140 KTAS at the same fuel flow. Maybe because we fly fairly light.

    Marty Vanover
    Phoenix, Az

    Peter Fabricius <pjfabricius@persona.ca> wrote:
    I have hesitated to post my Sierra on Musketeermail, but I have not
    yet sold my aircraft through other advertisements. I have owned the
    A/C for six years and no longer need a long distance cruiser since I
    retired in March 06.
    C-GGKP is advertised on "aviationclassifieds.com"; "barnstormers.com";
    as well as "buysellaviation.com". Picture and panel photos are also
    posted on Musketeer Photos.
    The aircraft is very well equipped and a wonderful performer, it has
    been professionally maintained. I cruise at 120kt using 9.5US Gal/hr.
    The autopilot is linked to the GPS, VOR, and ILS, a fantastic feature
    for long trips.
    I am asking US$95,000 and I know that sounds a little high but the
    aircraft is well equipped and in very good shape... it is a fantastic
    machine for someone needing to fly long cross country trips as I did
    when living in Moosonee, Ontario.
    The Sierra is now located here in Hanover, Ontario where we have
    settled after our working in the far North.
    I look forward to hearing from group members and perhaps there will be
    a buyer available. Thank you.






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    Sale of my Beautiful 1977 Beech Sierra C24R

    Posted by: "Martin Vanover" b024700@yahoo.com b024700
    Date: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:49 pm (PDT)
    >
    > Interesting that you are only getting 120 KTS
    > @ 9.5 gph. We get 140 KTAS at the same fuel
    > flow. Maybe because we fly fairly light.

    A Sierra oughta get 120K with the gear down.

    Blaine Nay
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    Sale of my Beautiful 1977 Beech Sierra C24R

    Bob,

    True what you say, as always. Next chance I get I will set 2700 @ 8000 ft DA and see what we get.

    I reviewed our Flight Log for our trip to the Reno Air Races from 57AZ (Oro Valley, Az). Unusal trip both ways as there was little wind at any segment going or returning. Granted we fly high because of 1) it's pretty warm down low, and 2) we do have some high terrain out here. Or route was 57AZ to HII (Lake Havasu City), then V-105 from Goffs VOR to Reno. We were initally at 6500 ft until we cleared under the MOAs south of Havasu. We generally set 2500 rpm and what ever MAP is available at cruise altitude (typically 8,000+ DA). Down low (6500') we see about 23 inches and up at 11,500' about 19 inches. We had 340 lbs in the front seats, a couple of suitcases, two computer cases, and an ice cooler plus the associated airplanes stuff, oil, jumper cables, glass cleaner, fuselage cover, etc and full gas. For the whole trip we saw 138 KTAS @ 8.5 gph at the lower altitudes and 130 KTAS @ 7.25 gph at 11,500 ft. We lean to peak EGT at cruise. I might add we have installed
    wheel covers on the mains and we think it is good for 2 kts on our airplane. The trip was 625 nm and we burned 42 gallons up and 39 gals back (I tend to be a little more aggressive with the red knob than my partner).

    Anyway, there are our numbers for what they are. We are more than happy with the cruise performance of our airplane, considering we currently have 1900+ on the engine. However, at the typically high DA we get out here, takeoff and climb is not what you could say is "stellar".

    M.Vanover
    Phoenix, Az.



    Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com> wrote:

    > Interesting that you are only getting 120 KTS @ 9.5 gph. We get 140
    > KTAS at the same fuel flow. Maybe because we fly fairly light.

    I thought the book value on the Sierra was about 135 knots for cruise.

    It is the slowest of the 200 HP retracts with the Cardinal at about 140
    knots and the Arrow about the same.

    Of course 9.5 gph isn't even 60% power, so 120 doesn't sound too bad. At
    about 11-11.5 gph, which is a 75% fuel flow on a 200 HP engine it might be
    a little quicker.

    TAS does go up at about 2% per 1000' of altitude, and about 8,000' at wide
    open throttle and 2700 RPM is 75% power, so a speed run at 8,000' of
    Density Altitude would establish the max cruise speed and the fuel flow for
    that speed.

    Weight IS an issue, but only at the sq.root of the DIFFERENCE in
    weight. So the factor is pretty small when comparing say 2000# all up
    weight against 2400# on another flight.

    Bob Steward, A&P IA
    Birmingham, AL




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    Sale of my Beautiful 1977 Beech Sierra C24R

    Beech Sierra, C24R, FOR SALE.
    Marty is right, the KTAS is higher and I should have said in my post that I flight plan at 120 Kt. This seems to give me a workable number for planning purposes. I see a range from 90 to 160 Kt ground speed depending on the winds and altitude. I usually fly between 5000 and 8000 and carry a load to the gross weight. My usual route is Hanover - Moosonee, Ontario which is 428 NM and I achieve this in plus or nunus 3.5 hours.
    I am serious about selling and I hope there is someone interested in a really solid aircraft. A huge feature is the coupled autopilot, Century III taking input from the Apollo 2001 GPS, the VOR or the ILS. Very relaxing on the long trips.
    Thank you
    Peter Fabricius
    Hanover, Ontario


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    Sale of my Beautiful 1977 Beech Sierra C24R

    From: John Rutkowski
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    Subject: Re: Sale of my Beautiful 1977 Beech Sierra C24R
    Date: Oct 17 2006
    A Sierra oughta get 120K with the gear down.

    Blaine Nay
    n6511r.com


    You'll never get 120 kts with the gear down. The gear is a most
    effective speed brake.

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