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    Sundowner vs Archer

    jboyd,

    I have about 3,000 hours logged. Many in Archers. Most in Musketeer/Sundowners. (Sundowners are bigger than Musketeers and have two doors.)

    The Piper cabin is smaller. It sits you lower on the seats. You are more comfortable with a higher seat like a chair. Back seat room is also compromised in the Archer. Two big guys can not sit side by side easily in either seat... at least not for long.

    The Archer will go a few knots faster. Maybe 5-6. Not much difference on medium size trips.

    The big difference I see is the handling of the Beech. It is quicker in roll. The Archer is sluggish. You work harder. The Beech is very stable in yaw, about the same for both. Pitch too.

    The Sundowner has stronger landing gear. Trailing link. Better than oleo struts. There is no post in the middle of the Beech front window like the Piper. The view is 100% better in a Sundowner. Beech put more height between the glareshield and the top of the windscreen.

    They both have the same engine. Parts are available for both. A Sundowner will be priced $30,000 less than an Archer. Buy the Beech. Use the money to upgrade the avionics.

    Tom Corcoran
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    Sundowner vs Archer

    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, mediareps@a... wrote:

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    > (Sundowners are bigger than Musketeers and have two doors.)

    It's my understanding that some Musketeers also have two doors.

    Jon





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    Sundowner vs Archer

    >I have about 3,000 hours logged. Many in Archers. Most in
    >Musketeer/Sundowners. (Sundowners are bigger than Musketeers and have two
    >doors.)

    I think Tom meant to say that Sundowners are bigger than ARCHERS, and
    Sundowners have 2 doors.

    This may be the reason that some have posted follow on messages about
    Musketeers having 2 doors available, etc.

    We all know that the Musketeer and the Sundowner are substantially similar
    in airframe parts, and aside from the engine differences of O-320 to O-360
    and possibly a 3rd window on the side and a baggage door, the airframes are
    essentially the same.

    Bob Steward, A&P IA
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    Sundowner vs Archer

    Jon,

    The long ride from Toronto to Dayton and back by car has effected your brain. Beech made all these planes with no doors and the retail dealers installed what the customer wanted. That is why they all have baggage doors... so the ferry pilots could get into the cabin.

    Tom Corcoran
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    From: jon simik <bigbajon@aol.com>
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    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, mediareps@a... wrote:

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    > (Sundowners are bigger than Musketeers and have two doors.)

    It's my understanding that some Musketeers also have two doors.

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