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    What Tires Do You Use

    I own a 1966 A23-19 and I'm in need of tires. I have always run
    McCreary Air Hawks with no problems. I no longer fly 150 hour years,
    but seem to be averaging around 25 hours a year. The aircraft is
    hangered except for about 20 days a year. I've had a look at the
    McCreary web site, and they are geared towards car racing tires. In
    fact, there is not one single word on aviation tires on their web site,
    so it got me wondering if I want to stick with the Air Hawks, which are
    available at several places. I only land on asphalt.

    Looking at prices, I see the following.

    McCreary Air Hawks $48.25
    Goodyear $95.50
    Condor $59.75
    Michelin $106.50

    I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost for the Goodyear or
    Michelin tires. I can get two McCreary Air Hawks for the price of one
    Goodyear. What are your thoughts.

    Gary
    5982S



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    What Tires Do You Use

    >I own a 1966 A23-19 and I'm in need of tires. I have always run
    >McCreary Air Hawks with no problems. I no longer fly 150 hour years,
    >but seem to be averaging around 25 hours a year. The aircraft is
    >hangered except for about 20 days a year.

    >Looking at prices, I see the following.
    >McCreary Air Hawks $48.25
    >Goodyear $95.50
    >Condor $59.75
    >Michelin $106.50

    >I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost for the Goodyear or
    >Michelin tires. I can get two McCreary Air Hawks for the price of one
    >Goodyear. What are your thoughts.

    The cost of the tire is not the total cost. Usually there is labor to install (1 hour of shop labor at the prevailing rate locally) in addition to the acquisition cost.

    Even though I work for free on my own plane, I still choose the Goodyear Flight Custom tire over the cheaper McCreary. I used to buy McCreary because they were cheaper. I noticed that the McCrearys were checking the sidewalls between annuals and I was replacing at least one tire per year for tread wear, etc. I bit the bullet and bought the Goodyear Flight Customs and found out RIGHT AWAY that there IS a difference. They didn't require much in the way of balance weight, and they rolled SMMOOOOTH on the T/O and landing roll.

    Then over the next couple of years I noticed that the sidewalls didn't check and that the tread was holding up well, and I finally went nearly 10 YEARS on a set of Goodyear Flight Customs.

    So in my book they are worth more than the difference in cost. I save my own labor changing them (one of the 3 every year with the McCreary), and over the life of the tires I saved many times the difference in purchase price.

    Now in a flight training/rental environment, I'd be using re-treads (all airliners run re-treads), since a rental pilot can flat spot an expensive tire just as quick as a cheapo, (and it happens on rental fleets that I have maintained, that a new tire is flat spotted on the FIRST FLIGHT by a student) I'd buy the tire best suited to the pilot's ability.

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    Birmingham, AL


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    What Tires Do You Use

    I have had identical experience with McCreary, one a year until I bought Good Years. Years later, there was no hesitation or guess work on which tire to buy.

    I agree on buying the tire to fit the skills, I have seen some real tire abuse in our club, cheap tires are OK for that.

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    Al Todd Sierra 9321S



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    >I own a 1966 A23-19 and I'm in need of tires. I have always run
    >McCreary Air Hawks with no problems. I no longer fly 150 hour years,
    >but seem to be averaging around 25 hours a year. The aircraft is
    >hangered except for about 20 days a year.

    >Looking at prices, I see the following.
    >McCreary Air Hawks $48.25
    >Goodyear $95.50
    >Condor $59.75
    >Michelin $106.50

    >I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost for the Goodyear or
    >Michelin tires. I can get two McCreary Air Hawks for the price of one
    >Goodyear. What are your thoughts.

    The cost of the tire is not the total cost. Usually there is labor to install (1 hour of shop labor at the prevailing rate locally) in addition to the acquisition cost.

    Even though I work for free on my own plane, I still choose the Goodyear Flight Custom tire over the cheaper McCreary. I used to buy McCreary because they were cheaper. I noticed that the McCrearys were checking the sidewalls between annuals and I was replacing at least one tire per year for tread wear, etc. I bit the bullet and bought the Goodyear Flight Customs and found out RIGHT AWAY that there IS a difference. They didn't require much in the way of balance weight, and they rolled SMMOOOOTH on the T/O and landing roll.

    Then over the next couple of years I noticed that the sidewalls didn't check and that the tread was holding up well, and I finally went nearly 10 YEARS on a set of Goodyear Flight Customs.

    So in my book they are worth more than the difference in cost. I save my own labor changing them (one of the 3 every year with the McCreary), and over the life of the tires I saved many times the difference in purchase price.

    Now in a flight training/rental environment, I'd be using re-treads (all airliners run re-treads), since a rental pilot can flat spot an expensive tire just as quick as a cheapo, (and it happens on rental fleets that I have maintained, that a new tire is flat spotted on the FIRST FLIGHT by a student) I'd buy the tire best suited to the pilot's ability.

    --Bob Steward A&P IA
    Birmingham, AL




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    What Tires Do You Use

    Ditto on the Goodyears. There is a difference. Ask people like Dresser who probally sell more tires than anyone and they will tell you the value is there for the better tire, however if you use up tires due to abuse get the less expensive ones.

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