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    Wingtip Strobe Wiring Question...

    Has anyone run new strobe cables through the inside flap portion of the wings to the center
    fuse and if so... How the hell did you do it?

    Stymied and hoping for an informed reply...

    Michael



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    Wingtip Strobe Wiring Question...

    Michael,

    I just did it on our Sierra two weekends ago.

    I started at the wing tip and went down the front of rear spar using a couple of tie-wraps through the lighting holes and another to secure the cable to them (as far as we could reach, would have liked to have done at least one more). At the aileron quadrant area I went over the top of the inboard rib (close fit) just ahead of the rear spar and went to the aft side of the rear spar through the next lighting hole (install a rub strip around the upper part of the lighting hole). To access the aft inboard rear spar area, I drilled out the flap well cover to expose the rear spar area (be careful wen punching out the steel pins in the cherry rivets, I missed one on the R/H side inboard and now have a hole repair on the flap well cover). There are holes in the trailing edge ribs that I installed rubber grommets in and strung the cable through. I use the 1/4" holes through the flap hinge arms, but opened them up to "F" drill size to ease the installation (you need to debur
    the holes aftwards). I assume these are same hole used by the factory installation. In between the ribs I routed the cable with the existing wiring run (with a little creativity and some clamps fastened to tooling holes along the neutral axis of the rear spar). Penetrating the body was a little difficult, but a little patience and long mechanical fingers did the trick. I routed the right cable accross the loom run under the back seats and used the hydraulic tubes going aft to the pump as supports. We have the blower and I am mounting the box next to it.

    We did a three strobe installation, but I DO NOT RECOMMEND it. The tail/rudder was a pain in the... ask me no questions about that!

    I could take some pictures of how I did it, but I won't be at the hanger until next weekend.

    Marty Vanover
    Phoenix, Az.

    avarre2001 <goldengate@pacific.net> wrote:
    Has anyone run new strobe cables through the inside flap portion of the wings to the center
    fuse and if so... How the hell did you do it?

    Stymied and hoping for an informed reply...

    Michael






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    This may be a bit redundant, sorry.

    Michael,

    I just did it on our Sierra two weekends ago.

    I started at the wing tip and went down the front of rear spar using a couple of tie-wraps through the lighting holes and another to secure the cable to them (as far as we could reach, would have liked to have done at least one more). At the aileron quadrant area I went over the top of the inboard rib (close fit) just ahead of the rear spar and went to the aft side of the rear spar through the next lighting hole (install a rub strip around the upper part of the lighting hole). To access the aft inboard rear spar area, I drilled out the flap well cover to expose the rear spar area (be careful wen punching out the steel pins in the cherry rivets, I missed one on the R/H side inboard and now have a hole repair on the flap well cover). There are holes in the trailing edge ribs that I installed rubber grommets in and strung the cable through. I use the 1/4" holes through the flap hinge arms, but opened them up to "F" drill size to ease the installation (you need to debur the holes aftwards). I assume these are same hole used by the factory installation. In between the ribs I routed the cable with the existing wiring run (with a little creativity and some clamps fastened to tooling holes along the neutral axis of the rear spar). Penetrating the body was a little difficult, but a little patience and long mechanical fingers did the trick. I routed the right cable accross the loom run under the back seats and used the hydraulic tubes going aft to the pump as supports. We have the blower and I am mounting the box next to it.

    We did a three strobe installation, but I DO NOT RECOMMEND it. The tail/rudder was a pain in the... ask me no questions about that!

    I could take some pictures of how I did it, but I won't be at the hanger until next weekend.

    Marty Vanover
    Phoenix, Az.

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    Wingtip Strobe Wiring Question...

    > I just did it on our Sierra two weekends ago.

    Because of the retracts, I think one would find that access is a little
    easier on the Sierra than on the fixed gear mice.

    A read of the applicable sections of AC 43.13-2A on wiring would be a good
    idea. Particularly the recommendations about distances between supports
    for the wires.

    http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...ght=ac%2043.13

    The clever owner/mechanic would string the wiring through the same supports
    Beech used. And possibly replace the (40 year old) wiring with new Teflon
    insulated wire while working on the wing. I have attached a pull string
    (mason's line from Home Depot) to the existing wires and pulled them out,
    allowing the new wires to be pulled back in with the string.

    Because of the difficulty in stringing the Whelen shielded cable from the
    fuselage to the wing tips, I'd suggest that pulling one 16 ga wire for
    power to the tip and having individual power supplies at each tip would be
    a good way to go.

    Whelen also makes individual supplies that sync with one extra 18 ga wire
    between the power supplies.

    Bob Steward, A&P IA
    Birmingham, AL



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    Wingtip Strobe Wiring Question...

    Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com> wrote:

    "A read of the applicable sections of AC 43.13-2A on wiring would be a good
    idea. Particularly the recommendations about distances between supports
    for the wires."
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    Bob made a couple of good points. Shudda never let my partner talk me into the three strobe/single power supply installation! If I were to do it again, I'd have used the remote power supplies or I'd use some type of conduit to hold the cable between the wing tip and aileron quadrant access cover. I'm waiting for my shipment of adheasive cable tie cradle mounts from Spruce to pick up the slack I have there. I had briefly considered making an additional inspection access cover, but my manufacturing sheet metal skills are 26 years old and I didn't want to bother my structures DER with a 337 form. Once the flap well panels are off (did I mention I found two rusty wrenches and a loose pulley guide pin in the right wing behind the rear spar?), the rest is fairly easy. Just time consuming.

    I'll do the pic's next weekend and post them on the BAC website for comment and criticism.

    Marty Vanover
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