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  1. #1

    RPM and prop issues & prop logs?

    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry Muller" <kmuller@c...> wrote:

    >The prop has no log, appears to be in good
    >shape, but I have no idea what it is. The
    >prior owner says it's a climb prop but I
    >think he's wrong based on the max rpm. It
    >does seem to climb fine, though.

    This has come up before but I forget. Isn't there supposed to be a
    prop Log? We have em anyway..

    I'd get the prop checked out; otherwise, how is one to know what one
    has.

    Jon
    Torono




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    RPM and prop issues & prop logs?

    In most cases, the prop log in our older planes is in a section within the engine log. With our engines getting longer in the tooth, and with prop changes occurring, it is a good idea to start a separate prop log when the opportunity arises. You can transfer over existing prop log entries, but you need to retain the originals. If you sell or trade an original engine along with its logs, make sure you keep copies of the pages comprising the original prop log entries, even if you have transferred the data to a new, separate prop log. If you buy another plane, make sure there is a prop log somewhere, even if it is within the engine log, and make sure that the prop matches the TCDS and log data.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: jon simik
    To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:42 PM
    Subject: [musketeermail] Re: RPM and prop issues & prop logs?


    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry Muller" <kmuller@c...> wrote:

    >The prop has no log, appears to be in good
    >shape, but I have no idea what it is. The
    >prior owner says it's a climb prop but I
    >think he's wrong based on the max rpm. It
    >does seem to climb fine, though.

    This has come up before but I forget. Isn't there supposed to be a
    prop Log? We have em anyway..

    I'd get the prop checked out; otherwise, how is one to know what one
    has.

    Jon
    Torono

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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  3. #3

    RPM and prop issues & prop logs?

    ---
    Just thought I'd pop in here, so you all won't think I'd completely
    given up on ya. My understanding is that all props are stamped with
    I.D. #s,and that will give you the pitch. Mine does, anyway. Also, I'm
    not clear on the fixed pitch log book issue.
    On another note, anyone know of someone interested in a nice little A-
    23, I'm considering selling mine and will consider any reasonable
    offer. Haven't been able to list it for sale,yet. Thought I'd throw it
    out here first and see what the feedback is.
    Allen
    "Down Mexico Way"



    In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "jon simik" <bigbajon@a...> wrote:
    > --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry Muller" <kmuller@c...>
    wrote:
    >
    > >The prop has no log, appears to be in good
    > >shape, but I have no idea what it is. The
    > >prior owner says it's a climb prop but I
    > >think he's wrong based on the max rpm. It
    > >does seem to climb fine, though.
    >
    > This has come up before but I forget. Isn't there supposed to be a
    > prop Log? We have em anyway..
    >
    > I'd get the prop checked out; otherwise, how is one to know what one
    > has.
    >
    > Jon
    > Torono




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  4. #4

    RPM and prop issues & prop logs?

    >My understanding is that all props are stamped with I.D. #s,and that will
    >give you the pitch. Mine does, anyway. Also, I'm not clear on the fixed
    >pitch log book issue.

    The front face of the prop is stamped with a model number which includes
    the pitch, and with a serial number and the Type Certificate number.

    Just as with Airframes and Engines, Props are "Class one" appliances (have
    a Type Certificate), and the FAA is asking that we have a log book for them.

    It hasn't been strictly enforced in the past, but the FSDOs are now asking
    us as IAs to make prop log entries at annual and/or 100 hour inspections,
    and they want a separate logbook. Certainly for the $5 it costs, this is
    one of the easiest and cheapest FAA requests of an aircraft owner.

    Lets all get a log and begin to track the prop separately and be proactive
    about this.

    Bob Steward, A&P IA
    Birmingham, AL




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  5. #5

    RPM and prop issues & prop logs?

    Thx for the info. Just to be clear, here's what I think is the bottom
    line. No prop log, F/P included; doesn't belong & not legal on a
    certified aircraft.

    Loose the prop logs & prop becomes non usable on certified
    birds. Can a prop shop check it out & if within spec, a new log started?

    Jon

    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Rellihan" <rellihan@r...>
    wrote:
    > In most cases, the prop log in our older planes is in a section
    within the engine log. With our engines getting longer in the tooth,
    and with prop changes occurring, it is a good idea to start a separate
    prop log when the opportunity arises. You can transfer over existing
    prop log entries, but you need to retain the originals. If you sell
    or trade an original engine along with its logs, make sure you keep
    copies of the pages comprising the original prop log entries, even if
    you have transferred the data to a new, separate prop log. If you buy
    another plane, make sure there is a prop log somewhere, even if it is
    within the engine log, and make sure that the prop matches the TCDS
    and log data.
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: jon simik
    > To: musketeermail@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:42 PM
    > Subject: [musketeermail] Re: RPM and prop issues & prop logs?
    >
    >
    > --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry Muller"
    <kmuller@c...> wrote:
    >
    > >The prop has no log, appears to be in good
    > >shape, but I have no idea what it is. The
    > >prior owner says it's a climb prop but I
    > >think he's wrong based on the max rpm. It
    > >does seem to climb fine, though.
    >
    > This has come up before but I forget. Isn't there supposed to be a
    > prop Log? We have em anyway..
    >
    > I'd get the prop checked out; otherwise, how is one to know what one
    > has.
    >
    > Jon
    > Torono
    >
    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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