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    [inbox] PEI Fly-In - FCC Radio Station License

    Tim is right, as I posted here a few weeks ago on the subject, Canadian Regs
    no longer require a radio licence.

    Ed Fitchett
    C-GBTC
    Toronto - Canada

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    [inbox] PEI Fly-In - FCC Radio Station License

    Click on this link for Canadian radio station licensing requirements.
    http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter..._sf01775e.html

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    [inbox] PEI Fly-In - FCC Radio Station License

    I must be a little thick headed because I'm still seeing that a radio
    license, at least the one for the pilot, is still needed when a U.S.
    pilot/plane is flying in Canada. There will be two or three planes of us
    flying through Canada on our way to Alaska starting June 17th. Time is
    running out if we need either or both the radio license for the plane
    and the one for the pilot. Any expert and definitive advise will be
    greatly appreciated.


    David Snodgrass
    BAC East Central Regional Director
    Beech Be23 N6083N
    North Manchester, IN

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    [inbox] PEI Fly-In - FCC Radio Station License

    I think the concern lays here & is a question for the FCC. Mike R
    has been to Canada; Tom C also, but on a more current & regular basis.
    Perhaps they will comment. Also might come into play for Russia.

    http://wireless.fcc.gov/aviation/fctsht4.html

    RESTRICTED OPERATOR PERMIT

    At least one person on each aircraft flying or communicating
    internationally must have a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit.
    This requirement is in addition to the requirement to have an aircraft
    radio station license for the aircraft. No Restricted Radiotelephone
    Operator Permit is required to operator VHF radio equipment on board
    an aircraft when that aircraft is flown domestically. You may obtain a
    Restricted Permit using FCC Form 605. No test is required to obtain
    this permit. The FCC will mail the permit to you and it will be valid
    for your lifetime. The fee for a Restricted Permit is in addition to
    any fee paid for an aircraft license.

    MAY I OPERATE MY AIRCRAFT RADIO WHILE MY APPLICATIONS ARE BEING PROCESSED?

    You may operate your aircraft radio after you have submitted your
    application(s) to the FCC so long as you fill out, detach, and retain
    the temporary operating authority attached to the application form.
    The temporary operating authority is valid for 90 days after you
    submit your application to the FCC and should be kept with your
    station records until you receive your license/permit through the mail.

    Jon

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    [inbox] PEI Fly-In - FCC Radio Station License

    IMO, the "must" part of the FCC requirement only applies if the
    destination country requires it.

    Canada does not require the radio license. I can find out (on my end)
    for sure Mon how it all may apply to US citizens.

    http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter..._sf01775e.html

    Aircraft Radio Station Licensing
    Licensing Requirements

    Do I need a licence for the aeronautical radio equipment on board my
    aircraft?

    You will not require a licence if you meet both of the following criteria:

    * the aircraft is not operated in the sovereign airspace of a
    country other than Canada.
    * the radio equipment on board the aircraft is only capable of
    operating on frequencies that are allocated for aeronautical mobile
    communications or aeronautical radio navigation. You can verify
    whether the frequencies you use are in the aeronautical mobile band by
    referring to Radiocommunication Information Circular 39 (RIC-39).

    If you do not meet both of the above criteria, you will require a
    radio licence. You can contact your local Industry Canada office for
    more information. All of the Industry Canada offices can be found in
    RIC-66.

    jon

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    [inbox] PEI Fly-In - FCC Radio Station License

    David:

    The regs are a bit ambiguous. Suggest you call Industry Canada (they have jurisdiction here - not FCC) and they will clarify. Central and Northern Alberta District Office in Edmonton 1-800-461-2646.

    Don

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    [inbox] PEI Fly-In - FCC Radio Station License

    Good evening,
    For what it is worth, I drove across the Canadian border a number of
    years ago with an amateur radio mobile rig installed in my car. At the
    border I was asked if I had a Canadian radio license. When I told him
    no, he said the radio would have to be disabled. I asked him what that
    would entail, and he said to unhook the microphone and put it in the
    glovebox. He then asked if I would like to operate in Canada and gave me
    directions to their DOT office (at least I think that was the Canadian
    authority, it's been a while). When I walked into their office and gave
    them my name, the said "well hello Mr. Waterman, we were expecting you".
    The customs agent had called them and told them I might be coming. They
    had all of the paperwork ready and filled out. All I had to do was sign
    it, add a couple of items of information and I was on my way. It is
    entirely possible that the Canadians reputation for being just plain
    nice, is well deserved.
    John

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    [inbox] PEI Fly-In - FCC Radio Station License

    Thanks Don, I'll make the call next week.


    David Snodgrass
    BAC East Central Regional Director
    Beech Be23 N6083N
    North Manchester, IN

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    This is a pretty old Topic thread; I haven't a clue whether anything involved has changed.

    I just got a wild hair and decided to get a radio license for Sunny Beech, as well as a Restricted Operator license for myself. I couldn't say 'why', other than the fact that I found the old 1984 Aircraft License in the airplane today. So I have applied online for both, 'just in case'.

    Man. I know I'm getting old. But it ain't like I don't use a computer pretty regularly. It took me every bit of fifty minutes of wading around in the FCC website before finally managing to get both applications submitted and paid for.

    I probably had the aircraft license done within about twenty minutes. But it took me forever to figure out how to find and complete the electronic submission for the RO license. Every time I clicked on some link that seemed to be the correct target, I'd wind up in yet another set of descriptions or instructions or some home page for some other function.

    Of course, once you succeed in getting the electronic app completed, it is pretty easy to proceed with the credit card payment. They don't want you to have any difficulty with payment! FWIW, the aircraft license was $110, and the RO license was $60.

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    This is a pretty old Topic thread; I haven't a clue whether anything involved has changed.

    I just got a wild hair and decided to get a radio license for Sunny Beech, as well as a Restricted Operator license for myself. I couldn't say 'why', other than the fact that I found the old 1984 Aircraft License in the airplane today. So I have applied online for both, 'just in case'.

    Man. I know I'm getting old. But it ain't like I don't use a computer pretty regularly. It took me every bit of fifty minutes of wading around in the FCC website before finally managing to get both applications submitted and paid for.

    I probably had the aircraft license done within about twenty minutes. But it took me forever to figure out how to find and complete the electronic submission for the RO license. Every time I clicked on some link that seemed to be the correct target, I'd wind up in yet another set of descriptions or instructions or some home page for some other function.

    Of course, once you succeed in getting the electronic app completed, it is pretty easy to proceed with the credit card payment. They don't want you to have any difficulty with payment! FWIW, the aircraft license was $110, and the RO license was $60.

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