Here's the definitive answer from Canada on what licenses are required when traveling from the U.S. to Canada. Whether these laws are enforced is another question. If the Alaska Gang is planning on flying to Russia, both licenses will definitely be required anyway - $$
BAC East Central Regional Director
Beech Be23 N6083N
North Manchester, IN
From: Steckly, Gary: DGRB [mailto:Steckly.Gary@ic.gc.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:05 AM
To: Snodgrass, David L.
Cc: Duford, Lee: #CIO - BPI; Cepella, Rob: DGRB
Subject: RE: Action required: 0005268 - INFO.IC Enquiry
Dear Mr. Snodgrass,
According to international law, (ref. article 37.1 of the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) regulations) you will require both a restricted radio operator certificate as well as a radio licence (see references below) :
37.1 § 1 1) The service of every aircraft station and every aircraft earth station shall
be controlled by an operator holding a certificate issued or recognized by the government to
which the station is subject. Provided the station is so controlled, other persons besides the
holder of the certificate may use the radiotelephone equipment.
Also, with respect to a radio licence, the International Telecommunications Union regulations state in article 18:
18.1 § 1 1) No transmitting station may be established or operated by a private
person or by any enterprise without a licence issued in an appropriate form and in conformity
with the provisions of these Regulations by or on behalf of the government of the country to
which the station in question is subject (however, see Nos. 18.2, 18.8 and 18.11).
18.8 § 5 1) In the case of a new registration of a ship or aircraft in circumstances
where delay is likely to occur in the issue of a licence by the country in which it is to be
registered, the administration of the country from which the mobile station or mobile earth
station wishes to make its voyage or flight may, at the request of the operating company, issue a
certificate to the effect that the station complies with these Regulations. This certificate, drawn
up in a form determined by the issuing administration, shall give the particulars mentioned in
No. 18.6 and shall be valid only for the duration of the voyage or flight to the country in which
the registration of the ship or aircraft will be effected, or for a period of three months, whichever
(I have included the reference to 18.2 and 18.8 as they pertain to aeronautical licences, although they are not pertinent to your situation since Canada and the United states do not have an agreement as stipulated in 18.8, and 18.11 applies only to instances of hire, lease or interchange of aircraft.)
If you need additional information relating to this matter or any other question relating to radio spectrum management or radio operator certification in Canada, please feel free to contact me directly.
Technical Policy Analyst
Radiocommunications and Broadcasting Regulatory Branch
Tel | Téléphone (613) 990-4742
Fax | Télécopieur (613) 991-3514
Industry Canada 300 Slater St. Ottawa ON K1A 0C8
Industrie Canada 300, rue Slater Ottawa ON K1A 0C8
Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada
From: Cepella, Rob: DGRB
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:13 AM
To: Steckly, Gary: DGRB
Cc: Duford, Lee: #CIO - BPI
Subject: FW: Action required: 0005268 - INFO.IC Enquiry
Gary - might you be able to respond to this enquiry?
From: Lee Duford
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:08 AM
To: Cepella, Rob: DGRB
Subject: Action required: 0005268 - INFO.IC Enquiry
I am not sure which district office to refer client to if he originates from the U.S. Can you help me? Thanks. Before we used to send these type of requests to HQ.
Here is an enquiry for which your assistance is required.
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Ottawa, Ontario K1P 5G8
Tel: (613) 954-5031 Fax: (613) 954-1894
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-----Client's Enquiry (2005-05-17)-----
----- Client Information -----
First Name: David
Last Name: Snodgrass
Telephone: 260 9827063 ext:
Fax: 260 9827667
Address: 106 River Cove
City: North Manchester
Postal / Zip Code: 46962
Country: United States
Line of Business: Individual
IP Address: 220.127.116.11
Aircraft Radio Operator and Aircraft Radio Licence
I'll be traveling to Canada from the U.S. in my own airplane this Summer. Do I
need to have a U.S. issued Aircraft Radio Operator and/or a Aircraft Radio
Thank you for your time and assistance.
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