You may try to get your 2K back through the EBay dispute resolution? At
least have them
flagged as a"problem seller" as you can always check a sellers complaint
"status" before buying anything as long as they keep the same name. Buying
something as complex and expensive as an aircraft on EBay is a tough
go....how can you trust anything you can't check out? Sorry to hear it
happened!

Ed Fitchett
C-GBTC



----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Alan" <iconoclastrebel@yahoo.com>
To: <musketeermail@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:16 PM
Subject: [inbox] [musketeermail] eBay sale of 66 Musketeer Super III
N5694S - Wings of Hope


> I had hoped that my first post on BAC would be as the proud owner of a
Super III restoration project but the deal was a fraud so I have an empty
hangar in San Diego (MYF) if anyone is looking.
>
> Just in case anyone else was interested in that Musketeer that was on eBay
several weeks ago, or it comes up for sale again - buyer beware.
>
> Wings of Hope, a St Louis MO "charity" put a 66 Musketeer Super III
(N5694S) on sale at eBay. I was the winning bidder at $16,995. After
putting down a $2k deposit, I had a local (SUS) A&P from Skyline Aero do a
pre-purchase inspection to make sure everything they said was there was
there, and that it was safe for the ferry flight the listing suggested.
>
> The plane had serious discrepencies from the listing, including low
compression, corrosion, sheet metal damage (all specifically addressed as
being good in the listing) and missing equipment that was listed (King
Transponder, etc.)
>
> I made numerous phone calls and emails discussing the problems. The
seller initially denied the problems existed, and even suggested that the
sheet metal damage had been caused by the A&P. I made arrangements to fly
out to St Louis to do a joint inspection. The day I was scheduled to leave,
I called the seller to confirm our meeting the next day and was told to "not
bother coming out, it would be a waste of my time." They stated
unequivically that they would not make any accomodation for any deficiency.
They added that they had other interested purchasers, and to top it off -
they were going to keep the deposit!
>
> After many more phone calls and emails, it is clear that these guys are
pulling a con. I'm not sure how many people they can take for a $2k deposit
before the St. Louis DA steps in but apparently I am at least the second
buyer who attempted a purchase through eBay.
>
> The first guy I talked to was very nice, then when the discrepencies in
the listing were discovered, their manner became aggressive to the point of
being abusive.
>
> If anyone is even remotely considering purchasing this plane (perhaps for
parts) or doing any kind of business at all with these guys, save yourself
some grief and send me an email or give me a call. I am putting together
all the documentation so the facts will speak for themselves - you are
welcome to learn from my experience before becoming their latest victim.
>
> If anyone else has had any previous experience with Doug Clements or Wings
of Hope, I'd be interested to hear about it. If you need a hanger at
Montgomery, let me know.
>
> Christopher Alan
> 619-920-8069
> calan@searchenginesamurai.com
>
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