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  1. #1

    Salvaged aircraft

    One thing to consider is the fire damage to the firewall itself AND
    the backup structure. If the heat got to the backup structure, the
    aircraft is probably beyond economic repair. Aluminum alloys don't
    take kindly to heat.

    Sorry to hear of your loss, but you might want to just chalk it up
    and move on.

    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Herb Harris" <ltc_harris@y...>
    wrote:
    > I am looking for views on repairing an airplane that has been
    listed
    > as salvaged. The reason is that I screwed up last month and missed
    a
    > bird's nest on my preflight inspection and ended up burning the
    > engine compartment on my Musketeer. Because this was my first
    > airplane, I didn't realize how the insurance company pays off for
    > hull damage (damage repair cost plus salvage price must be less
    then
    > the value for hull coverage on the policy) Needless to say, I
    > received the payoff value from the policy but have been thinking
    > about bidding on the salvaged airplane. I have another airplane
    that
    > I am seriously looking at buying but thought that getting my
    > original airplane at a reduced cost and repairing it to better than
    > original might be a better position. What is involved in getting a
    > salvaged airplane recertified as airworthy? What effects does that
    > salvaged connotation have on future resale or operation?
    >
    > Only the engine compartment was destroyed (hoses, mags , booster
    > pump and ignition lines)and just a little smoke inside that came in
    > from the firewall where the rubber melted.
    >
    > I know you all have some great thoughts and I am weighing the
    > possibilities of getting a "new" airplane versus trying to repair
    > one damaged. Thanks
    >
    > Herb Harris




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  2. #2

    Salvaged aircraft

    Sounds like a Nanjing CJ-6 that I bid on last year. I figured out
    what I thought it was worth, made a bid, and lost. No problem, I
    just kept looking till finding our current (flying) B19 Sport.

    I doubt the economics will work for you, either, but of all the
    airplanes, the Mouse series is the best to have had this happen in,
    as the firewall and everything forward of that is essentially
    unitized.

    FIRST, you really need to be savvy on what the heat has damaged. If
    the paint on the engine mount is blistered, few mechanics will want
    to sign it back into service with less than an entire replacement of
    the engine mount. Same with the engine & gearbox cases. Maybe you
    can get away with an engine overhaul (around $14000 starting price),
    plus cowl, plus accessories.

    My starting position would be (before bidding), to find a donor
    airplane that has EVERYTHING forward of the windshield. The salvage
    prices have gone up like real estate and the price of motors even
    more so. This is not an easy task any more.

    Then I would figure that the resale value has decreased by about a
    third from the VRef on the same airplane with no damage. See if the
    economics work from there.

    Bob
    A&P, Aero Eng

    --- In musketeermail@yahoogroups.com, "Herb Harris"
    <ltc_harris@y...> wrote:
    > I am looking for views on repairing an airplane that has been
    listed
    > as salvaged. The reason is that I screwed up last month and missed
    a
    > bird's nest on my preflight inspection and ended up burning the
    > engine compartment on my Musketeer. Because this was my first
    > airplane, I didn't realize how the insurance company pays off for
    > hull damage (damage repair cost plus salvage price must be less
    then
    > the value for hull coverage on the policy) Needless to say, I
    > received the payoff value from the policy but have been thinking
    > about bidding on the salvaged airplane. I have another airplane
    that
    > I am seriously looking at buying but thought that getting my
    > original airplane at a reduced cost and repairing it to better
    than
    > original might be a better position. What is involved in getting
    a
    > salvaged airplane recertified as airworthy? What effects does
    that
    > salvaged connotation have on future resale or operation?
    >
    > Only the engine compartment was destroyed (hoses, mags , booster
    > pump and ignition lines)and just a little smoke inside that came
    in
    > from the firewall where the rubber melted.
    >
    > I know you all have some great thoughts and I am weighing the
    > possibilities of getting a "new" airplane versus trying to repair
    > one damaged. Thanks
    >
    > Herb Harris




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  3. #3

    Salvaged aircraft

    On this note, my 78 Sierra will be up for salvage auction this month if
    anyone is interested. Prop is gone and the sheet metal on the bottom
    half is worthless, but the engine would make a valuable core and the
    interior and radios were in fairly good shape (King stack including a
    KNS80). Send me a note if you want the details.




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  4. #4

    Salvaged aircraft

    I have had a few inquiries about the radios in "my" 78 Sierra, and I
    wanted to make it clear that it the plane is actually up for salvage
    auction by the insurance company---I no longer own it or its parts. I
    just wanted to see it go to a good home.

    Here is a link to the auction, with photos:
    <http://www.phoenixaviationmgrs.com/Salvage_interface/Table/N18942.htm>



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